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Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby UnwashedMolasses » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:56 am

Idea: (May sound pretentious/overdone, but I wouldn't post if I hadn't put some thought into it. This was originally going to just be a Yohji thread, but I decided to expand it.)

For many people leaving the community in which they've always lived to strike out on their own, it's a time to test themselves agains the world. I believe this is often reflected in the search for a perfect fit. People want their clothes to fit like a second skin, to be close, to show the body and the personality underneath. The clothes are a direct output of the person in them because they're displaying themselves in their position with the world.

When one wears oversized clothing, it is no longer directly against the skin. Your body doesn't inform the shape of the clothes. Instead, there is space for all sorts of wonderful things and contexts. For a lot of people this space is filled with familial affection, as they usually wore clothes too big for them when they were passed down from siblings or lent by parents. For some, as with the designs of Yohji Yamamoto, it can function as armor, an extra layer of space between observer and observed. Rather than pitting one's self against the world for better or worse, they are removed, functioning within their own sphere.

To make it much simpler: I like comfy stuff. It makes me smile. It feels nice against my skin and within my mind and heart. This is a thread for anything comfy or oversized. Clothes that you can wear from bed to couch to bed. Any articles of clothing that illicit that warm reaction of safety and contentment.

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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby b4my » Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:04 am

I think there's a funny association between extremely skinny looking cool and extremely baggy looking cool. Skinny, as exemplified by Hedi-era Dior, Renton from Trainspotting, etc. is this very sort of angular, sharp, sneer-y sort of cool. Baggy, as exemplified by Yohji, some Visvim, 2000s rappers, is this very lackadaisical, confident sort of cool. Both say "I don't care what you think of me" but in very different ways.

I don't know what that difference is exactly so here are some pictures of ben'ron looking awesome.
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby RycePooding » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:40 am

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EDIT: can someone find that first pic I put up?
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby germinal » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Maison Martin Margiela Autumn/Winter 2000/2001

Oversized collection

The clothes are made to fit a size 78 mannequin, thus giving the models the appearance of a little girl playing dress up in her parents' clothing:


parts 2 and 3 should be in the related videos

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Presentation:
A disused depot, belonging to the SERNAM, a goods shipping company of the SNCF, the French rail company, in the 18th arrondissement of Paris. An immobilised freight train of 12 cars stands along the loading bay. Each car is dressed as a small salon. Recorded birdsong fills the space before the beginning of the show. A white cotton runner carpet covers the middle of each car’s floor; a mirrored ‘Disco Ball’ reflects tiny particles of light throughout. Thirty-five gilded and white chairs are placed around the walls of the each carriage to seat the invited public. Other invitees look on from outside the train. Twenty-five women, their eyes obscured by a heavy fringe of hair matching their own hair colour, each wear an outfit of the collection. Some of the women wear miniature mirror balls as earrings. The women pass slowly from carriage to carriage walking before all of the invited guests. ‘Pink Room’ from the soundtrack of the television series ‘Twin Peaks’ is played loud during the passage of the twenty-five women throughout the train.

Collection:
Oversized garments: This season some of the oversized garments in the collection are moulded to a human form of Italian size 78. These garments, when worn by a woman of a smaller size, will retain their enlarged form around the wearer. Oversized men’s garments in size Italian 78, a coat, trench coat, caban, leather biker jacket, tailored jacket, dinner jacket, shirt, T-shirt and a series of knit including a sweater, cardigan and vest. A selection of garments in a man’s size 78 whose outside, made in exterior fabrics, have the structure and volumes usually used for the interiors of garments. These include: a coat, trench coat, caban, leather biker jacket, tailored jacket and a dinner jacket. Several men’s classic trousers and jeans, all in one size, 78, are sized down to fit women of varying sizes by a system of folding and tacking their waistband.

Oversized women’s garments: jackets and waistcoats have been interpreted in suede. Heavy stretch dresses and tops are in wool and fluid polyester with another version in two fabrics using lining and stretch wool. Moulded self-formed knits, two of these with a destroyed appearance in varying weights. Oversized traditional skirts and trousers that, by way of a folding system at their waist, may be worn by women of a usual size. Within the ‘Artisan’ production, the proportions of existing and normal sized garments are amplified by way of various cutting techniques. These garments include raincoats (two lengths), jeans jackets (long sleeve and sleeveless) and trousers in corduroy. Other garments of the collection have identical fronts & backs. Accessories include leather gloves: short and long, jabot: cotton tulle and silk, pearl belt and sautoir, ‘Tabi’ boots in two heel heights in either loden or leather, 'Tabi' socks and our ‘ Aids’ benefit T-shirt this season in green with blue text.


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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby hirokinakamura » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:19 pm

are those pics of your daughters germinal

i didnt know you had kids
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby BobbyZamora » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:15 am

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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby suubz » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:19 am

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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby bels » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:52 pm

bumping this thread using psychic mind powers
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby yubbermax » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:16 pm

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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby creepinatshirtt » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:47 pm

Oh fuck yes. This is my kinda thread. Dumping inspo(lots of Zachary Cole Smith incoming).I really love loose-billowy clothing. Clothes that just flow in the wind. Theres something relaxing about it( probably it being oversized and looking really comfy lmao), but also theres something really beautiful in it as well.
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby bels » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:36 am

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Change thread title to like our mother's clothes.
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby ervhio » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:16 pm

Fantastic thread.

Not sure where half of this stuff is from, but it's basically my inspo folder - muted colors and ample cuts.

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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby popcorn » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:23 am

avid supporter of the "big pants != comfortable pants" movement here
imo comfort is a function of three variables
- material stretch
- material feel
- fit/taper
two of those are concrete, one is opinion

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(this is one of my favorite pics)
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby ervhio » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:56 am

@ryan_firecrotch

I agree - I think after a certain point, bagginess doesn't translate to more comfortability. Skinny pants are often less comfortable (to varying degrees based on fabric), but I think your last pic there is about where bagginess stops feeling better and becomes more of an aesthetic choice, fabric variables held constant.
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Re: Like Our Fathers Clothes

Postby yoyobeat » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:57 am

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To add to the above, I totally agree that comfy looking doesn't necessarily mean comfy for everyone. I am strongly considering selling my 2 pairs of non-drawstring Yohji pants because keeping them up with a belt is frankly less comfortable for me than, say, my pair of Brooks Bros corduroys that fit me properly at the waist. Even though the Yohji fabric is nicer and feels better against my skin, I don't find them more comfortable on the whole, and am not willing to commit to suspenders.
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