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Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:12 am
by bels
uh.. That jigsaw linen coat that I bought then returned just went on further discount to #98.

Honestly sort of probably going to have to buy that. I said to myself when I returned it that I would if it went any cheaper. Hmm =|

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:23 am
by teck
damn i get real scared because i know deep down i do need to buy stuff. i justify it because of all the things there are out there, clothes is one of the few things i allow an indulgence. im not a big traveler, i hate cars, i think owning a home in this economy to be risky. im not a foodie.

humans are built for desire, our insatiable need drives forward our speices and we turn that desire into things, whether it be the will to crush another hominid's skull or build an internet start up.

the sublimation of these desires, and the awareness and channeling of this energy i feel is healthy.

even in buddhism it's not prescribed that we all become bodhisatvas. we follow our path as best we can and hope to graduate to the nxt lvl the next go around.

i do feel a bit of guilt because i do have a hefty amount of cc debt, but its being paid off. plus my student loans are nearly paid off.

however if i were to do no cop i'd simply need to avoid the weekends. most weekdays im too busy/tired to do anything. saturday afternoon is the danger time and i would need to chain myself to something to keep from copping.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:36 am
by bels
Are you saying most of your cops are in person shop floor? I guess you live in NY so that's possible.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:53 am
by teck
yea most of my cops are in person. almost every brand is here so its feasible. part of the fun is getting on a bike or subway and going from place to place, considering, looking, looking again, putting on hold. its a fun excuse to criss cross the city. gives you a mission parameter for the level.

i also do a lot of consignment-ing, and the thrill of finding a brand i like is fun. however it also means that i end up opportunity buying, rather than considerate buying

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:49 am
by Syeknom

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:02 am
by starfox64
buying things in person is, in the long-run, probably better for your wallet. as long as you can don't succumb to the pressures of the salespeople, it's so much better to touch and try on a garment. the number of times i've bought something sight unseen and been disappointed with it or had it not fit is frustratingly high, and it's probably better to just buy stuff that you like at full price than swing and miss a bunch of times over the 'net.

there's a pair of white ervell jeans on sale but only sizes 30 and 32 and the model looks really terrible (you can see the outlines of all the pockets) and apparently they fit really slim. but normally i wear size 30 jeans, so should i size up to 32 or would that be too loose? i've been burned enough times that i'm not going to buy them but part of me is saying that this is such a good deal.

i dunno, i think i'm getting to a point where i'm willing to pay full price for a few things each season just to know that i'm getting what i want and i don't have to gamble with sizing.

also monkeys you should buy that sweater. the guy who cuts my hair has a tat that says 'monkeys' and has a picture of a monkey above it. pretty lolzy, although i think he has a full sleeve now so it's not quite as funny.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:11 am
by can-
this is now the French wardrobe thread

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:19 am
by starfox64
you are now jdbee

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:52 am
by Syeknom
I don't think French Wardrobe is for me at all

My preferred way of shopping is to be surprised by things in person and buy them then

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:11 pm
by teck
i never understood french wardrobe. i don't buy stuff so i can put check marks on my list of a wardrobe. maybe as a beginner you need x blue jeans or y oxford in z color. i have a wishlist but some of the best stuff i have are things i got on accident almost.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:20 pm
by Syeknom
Yeah, I get the concept certainly and for many it's a great way to focus but it's not something I would see being useful for myself (or you, quite so).

bela help me, this cardigan is really destroying my resolve it's so pretty

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:15 pm
by bels
I'm locked in personal combat over rebuying that linen coat. Only thing stopping me is the possibility that my +J chesterfield will finally be too small and I'll have to buy a real coat anyway.

I really want the fucking linen coat but I guess it's not nocop if you just buy things you want, is it?

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:40 pm
by starfox64
i think the french wardrobe works best if you are a person who likes buying clothes but you have some kind of external factor (college student, dependents) limiting the amount that you can spend in good conscience.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:37 am
by germinal
The idea of buying only a few things each season is a sensible one and i think in the end most people will arrive in place where they do just that, but the act of naming it "The French Wardrobe" and actively pursuing it and talking about it is weird to me and sort of robs it of all its attractiveness

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:35 am
by bels
It's just a phrase.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:44 am
by starfox64
would you be more fond of it if it were the English Wardrobe?

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:54 am
by bels
I'm not particularly against it either way. Though I don't understand if it's meant to be buy five items per season (loads of stuff) or own five items per season?

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:18 am
by starfox64
nvm 10charkljadsf;kljw

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:26 pm
by can-
my friend is a givenchy buyer and told me last night she can get me things 30% off wholesale price

so i kind've feel like i should get some givenchy now.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:10 pm
by starfox64
are they still making shark shirts? cuz i think you need one of those.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:08 pm
by can-
tempted by this this turtleneck
Image

wish it werent black. panelling detail so nice

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:52 am
by bels
Come on ben. "I got a discount at Gvnchy and now I think I need some Gvnchy." Surely this is textbook shit you don't need.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:29 am
by Syeknom
30% off isn't worth losing the respect of this thread for ben. This is like a dieter who fell off the wagon with his diet, promises himself he'll start again at the end of the month but until then decides to binge on chocolate cake and pizza.

Presumably you'll still be friends with this woman in a month or two and she'll still have access to the discount, take advantage of it when there's something that you really want after getting control of your desire-craving-pleasure-satisfaction-desire cycle

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:35 am
by can-
well I imagine 30 off wholesale is closer to a 60-70 discount

I'm being facetious I'm probably not going to buy any givenchy

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:50 am
by bels
Does anyone else feel like the constant forward looking nature of fashion makes everyone seem discontent.

"Can't wait until f/w so I can wear cardigans again."

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:02 am
by Syeknom
I find myself discontentedly waiting on the next payday too much

Looking forward to F/W to wear x item or layers is kinda silly but I can't dress for heatwaves at all since they normally don't happen so I have been waiting for the weather to swap.

Now it's just chucking down and that's easy, familiar territory.

I don't get people who live somewhere perma-hot and get frustrated at not being able to layer, or people in perma-damp europe who wish they could wear warm weather stuff more often (noticed recently that girls in belgium wear the same clothes day-in-day-out during the wet and cold months but for the few weeks of burning sun we have they suddenly have a wardrobe bursting at the seams with dresses/light-weight tops/flowery skirts/etc - seems like a really aspirational way to accumulate clothes). One of the many negative effects of the globalisation and internetification of fashion I guess - we now all mentally live in some generic East-Coast-USA fantasty-country and if our real life dress doesn't pair up with that environ it can be frustrating or not keeping-up-with-the-joneses or something.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:09 am
by bels
I pumped up my bike tires last night and went for a ride to get fast food and thought that the weather has been pretty much perfect at the moment. Warm in the day, cool enough in the night to ride around quick without sweating and wear a jacket when you arrive. When it rains the rain dries up in hours instead of days.

"A really aspirational way to accumulate clothes" is a really depressing sentence. "accumulate clothes"

Are you into fashion, or do you just accumulate clothes.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:19 am
by Syeknom
Indeed

I guess a lot of people aren't "into fashion" but accumulation for accumulation/aspiration's sake seems grim to me, but who am I to judge since I'm probably just as guilty but more in denial about it all

What fast food did you munch? We went out and ate vegan last night, delicious spicy noodles with vegetables, pine nuts and seitan

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:00 am
by bels
Just a burg and curly fries and a bottle of water. Every so often ride out to the same place and grab one.

Re: Desire Is Suffering

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:02 am
by Syeknom
Curly fries, good times