The Price Of Quitting The Game

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:03 pm

It's absolutely 100% essential that we have a thread about not caring about clothes on a forum dedicated to caring about clothes. Where else could it be?

I decided that getting into clothes that you can't afford, can't see, can't touch and can't wear is a scam and you might as well get into something else instead. It's like getting into eating out when you can only afford to read the menus.

People talking about how the things they can't have are really great and valuable and worthwhile works out very well for the people buying and selling the things and rewards the people talking with f all.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby schiaparelli » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:26 pm

for me it's not really about getting into clothes that I can't afford—but getting into the different ways humanity can express ideas through clothing and "reading" that.

I love reading books about people I don't know whose lives I don't lead whose preoccupations and concerns are entirely foreign, because there's something interesting about what that tells me about the world or myself or my perception of the world.

if we only talk about clothes as things instead of as sociocultural indicators and storytellers and encapsulations of ideas, then it all becomes pretty boring honestly
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby Naka_ » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:45 pm

This discussion resonates with me a lot as I've been reflecting on my relationship to clothing over the past few months.
I've been a huge fan of Lemaire for a while, but barely own any of their clothes because they're too expensive even on sale, and don't really fit with my every day aesthetic.
It really upset me for a while when I came to this realisation because I find their clothing so so beautiful.
Eventually I've started to appreciate the ideas behind the clothing, be they ideas based in the physical realm or those a little more abstract/philosophical, more than the idea of owning them.
It's been very a very beneficial experience for me overall, particularly because I want to study fashion and essentially structure my life around my relationship to clothing.
I've barely bought any clothes in the past four months, and while I'm not satisfied with my wardrobe, I have a better idea of how I want it to progress.
Something else that has really stuck with me was something one of @heckawheel's friends said IIRC.
"I have no interest at all in the hobbyist side of fashion"
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby LelandJ » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:17 pm

Yoox can help minimize the pain of the game.
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Re: NOCOPNOCOPNOCOPNOCOPNOCOPB

Postby yoyobeat » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:20 pm

@schiaparelli glad to hear your take as well

schiaparelli wrote:something I am so furiously excited about I throw all my rules out the window.


so, uh, like, i'm currently waiting on these in the mail

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby sknss » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:10 pm

Bela have you considered concentrating on tennis to eventually quit the game?
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Re: NOCOPNOCOPNOCOPNOCOPNOCOPB

Postby JewTurk » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:05 pm

JewTurk wrote:Well. I may have mentioned it elsewhere but I ended up getting some mono docs at the store in Scottsdale on sale, and I think that'll be the start of my "no cop". They definitely feel like "the" shoe that are easy as shit to wear with black pants and almost any top and be relatively well off.

I have enough clothes I enjoy to last me until the summer at the very least, being reasonable I can probably make it through the year without needing to buy anything.

Looking at my bank statements for taxes etc I'm noticing way too much is being spent on clothes for the incredibly small amount of joy I'm getting out of furthering my interest in it. Going to start directing my disposable income to hobbies other than fashion for the most part for this year and I think I'll end up being a lot happier with my wardrobe as a bonus, being more content with it once I take my mind off constantly trying to improve it.

Wishing myself, and others, luck.


Well one week away from 9 months of "nocop" and the only purchase I've made was a battenwear anorak because I needed a waterproof jacket for Flagstaff and then some necessities like socks/underwear/work out clothes. I don't think I'll be making any winter clothes purchases either unless I find that the sidewalks are too icy to handle walking to class once winter comes around.

I think my disposable income is just going to get redirected to things like climbing gear and backpacking gear. There are so many opportunities here in Flagstaff for outdoors recreation, its amazing.

I kind of changed how I interact with fashion a bit. I don't really feel the need to fill holes in my wardrobe where I'm the only one who really notices them. I still enjoy people-watching, seeing what others are wearing to get a feel for what I like, but it comes more from people I see around campus/town as opposed to what I see posted on fashion forums and things of that nature. Which seems to help a bit because now I'm dressing more in tune with people I see everyday, feels like I 'fit in' more but still have my own style. Flagstaff has a lot of internet culture going around, though, so I may not be getting away from it too much.

I do like where my wardrobe is at now though, got rid of a bunch of stuff I don't wear anymore and I feel like my wardrobe is much more complete now seeing it with only the clothes I regularly wear.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:50 pm

my tailor is quitting the game to sell jewellery.

"But Oz, you can't do this, how many pairs of trousers have you hemmed for me?"
"Twenty? Must be more than twenty maybe."
"Yeah, twenty easily, you can't leave, I don't want to explain to the new guy what I mean when I say I want them slightly baggy."
"What can I say mate. You're gonna have to explain."

I'm furious.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby maj » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:02 am

seeing old cop lists is a great way of reminding myself i don't actually need anything and it's not the end of the world if i don't buy that "piece i super wanted"

out of all this i probably only ever got maggy trews, a year later i got a shannon knit in a diff colour

i will look at this every time i feel bad about missing out on shit.

majhacks cop list 2014

> gaurenteed

* christopher shannon knit sweater in aqua

* christopher shannon track pants in black

* christopher raeburn knit sweater in grey

* adidas gazelles in black

> Sale cops (40% or more)

* raf simons for fred perry pop art polo

* cos jersey sleeved jacket

> pieces i want with no final products

* wool trews (maggie h, wu, cos)
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby ramseames » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:03 am

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby dbcooper » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:39 am

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby smiles » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:36 pm

I have a methodology/plan.

It has a heavy (emotional) price.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:12 pm

Uninstalled eBay from my phone.

Prepare for the fourth wave of no cop. (drawing heavily from second wave no cop ideology)

bels wrote:You know what I'm charming of being civil why don't you guys make your own thread about how you love buying things and you're going to keep doing it forever and ever and ever and it's really great.

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby rjbman » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:00 pm

I'm on board for no-cop through the rest of the year, with the exception of basics (I need a scarf and a few tees).

Though there's a bag I've got my eye on, which would pretty much run me dry and on no-cop through summer next year. We'll see...
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby teck » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:19 pm

ive been using this thing to reevaluate my purchases. its really put me on a new level of no cop.

start a family.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bird.in.flight » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:12 am

got my paypal balance back to zero, and then promptly closed it
honestly this close to quitting the game at this point lads, just need two pairs of shorts and a summer raincoat
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:56 pm

THE INTENTION of Fourth Wave No Cop ideology is to reduce or eliminate the amount of time, money and mental will spent on commerce and personal styling.

It is clear that any attempt to do this will be met with two counterforces, the EXTERNAL and the INTERNAL. The EXTERNAL counterforce is extremely well organised, well funded, resilient, tenacious and entrenched in almost all private and public territories. The INTERNAL counterforce will not be discussed here further other than to state that each individual will have to reckon with their own internal counterforce alone and to the best of their abilities.

Fourth Wave No Cop ideology is differentiated from previous waves by the acknowledgement of the external counterforce as well as the acknowledgement of the non commercial aspects of fashion as a hobby worth pursuing.

Fourth Wave No Cop ideology is not interested in the ethical, moral, artistic or financial justification of either the internal or external counterforces, merely that they present an obstacle to No Cop.

Fourth Wave Doctrine
- Creative acts are greater than consumptive acts and not all creative acts are equal
- Creative acts can be experienced by anyone who seeks them out
- Delete any mobile app which encourages shopping as an ambient activity
- Enforce automated device locks on any retail experience that has become habituated
- The most interesting clothes cannot be bought
- When considering a physical retail experience evaluate its worth artistically before considering your relationship to its products
- The most effective way to complete your war chest will be to remove items that do not work rather than obtain the "last few" items that you want
- Under no circumstances underestimate the power of the external and internal counterforces. In most circumstances they cannot be defeated instantaneously in direct confrontation. Sustained, low risk operations will accumulate to create a greater effect.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby une_impasse » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:29 pm

i was doing no-cop november but then buckled and bought a coat

the order was cancelled and my money was refunded

please forgive me, this is my second chance
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby ramseames » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:42 pm

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:30 am

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too many shit 'creatives' out there already, most would be better off shopping IMO


Shit creativity is a thousand times better than shopping. As someone knee deep in both I can confirm this and will die defending it as a viewpoint.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby beach » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:06 pm

I've been tracking all my purchases this year in a notebook, and now that it's basically December I tallied them up. These numbers do include shoes/scarves/undergarments.

26 directly from stores
15 things secondhand/ebay/thrift
4 gifts

Granted, I had a temp job this year with a stupid as hell dress code, so 9 things were bought with that in mind (ugh). Overall a larger number of new things than I would've liked though, especially bought direct from the store.

As far as thrifting/ebay goes, 50% of the things I cop end up being GR8, and the other half look like shit. It's probably still a cheaper habit than buying whatever expensive thing I wanted originally though.

Anyway, I'm attempting a no cop until Xmas, since I plan on hitting my hometown's thrift places and am going to Spain for a week afterwards.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby Bobbin.Threadbare » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:00 am

Hey guys I'm going to make a T-shirt print run of the below who wants to cop to show solidarity?

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Maybe mousemats too lets see.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby WussWayne » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:57 am

I reckon some of you might just be bored with the clothes you own/current style taste. Pulling off a Smiles could be refreshing
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:16 am

Some people who appear to have quit the game.

* Rublev
* Sknssaddict
* Tucker
* Newgale (saveeeeed_samiiiiiiiiiir)
* Margiela
* Lang
* Yohji
* Rei
* Karl
* JW Anderson
* Dries Bang Hokum
* Sultanblender
* Rock Owens
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby blanket » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:14 am

Some people who keep talking about how they are going to quit the game but then they see a nice jacket on Cash in The Attic that has the very important keyword VENTILE on the care tag and suddenly they're neck deep in the game again

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:32 am

I'm experimenting with a new game quitting y therapy where you buy all your grails first and the shock of owning those lusted after garms frees you from the game.
I will report back on its success or failure
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby mc-lunar » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:01 am

what a coincidence! i'm experimenting with a new dieting plan where you eat all the junk food you want and the shock of eating all the lusted after candy frees you from hunger and earthly desire
i too will report back
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby yoyobeat » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:07 am

Has anyone said this yet? I'm tired of buying stuff online and believe that this is the real game that we need to quit rather than buying in general.

Stuff rarely feels the way I expect it to unless I've tried it on in person, it often fits wrong, wastes so much time too. Mindless clothes browsing kind of took facebooks place since I don't really use that anymore. There are hundreds of thousands of available products that are constantly being refreshed all the time at online boutiques and eBay and grailed. Choice overload.

Quit buying online.

Counter argument: " I live in a small town / suburbs"

Great. Use this as an excuse to travel to cities and be patient.

Counter: online has the Deals

Ok, but you know you're gonna end up feeling meh about half the sale stuff you buy. If you've had your eye on one piece I guess that's fine, but the time spent finding that piece... Is it really worth the money you save? I'm skeptical.
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