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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby pips » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:17 pm

Saw a dude wearing RO adidas sneakers (the all black, non hoof-like version) in some art exhibit I went to over the weekend. They're actually not that off putting in real life / in motion. Certainly not expecting to see those in these parts.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby papabear » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:29 pm

Yo guys, a couple of us over at r/mf are planning to start a magazine.The idea is still very premature, join us and contribute!
http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashion/com ... _magazine/
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby papabear » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:10 am

@ryan_firecrotch There's plenty you can do! I'm sure you're a great writer and have plenty of ideas to contribute. Fill out the Google form with any skills you think you can contribute with.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby chilljin » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:40 pm

finally oxblooded my cherry docs
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby rublev » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:06 pm

Are there any Uniqlo discount codes around just now?
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby exprof » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:49 pm

Total pocket count is 8 right now, this is wonderful.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby nick » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:20 pm

considering purchasing some jeans and sneakers like its some radical 'fashion experimentation'
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby zayg » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:46 pm

bought a pair of black jeans and apparently the mirror had the big head mode cheat enabled

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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby can- » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:26 pm

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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby sidewalk » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:39 am

polo
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby popcorn » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:05 pm

First of all, very, very good post @Sidewalk, there's a lot of questions in there that can or must be answered at length. I'm not going to try to address every question asked, but offer my thoughts on the same subject, however unrefined or unsatisfactory.

I do think just short of all of fashion involves the longing for attention and individual confidence, and that to try to tackle other aspects of fashion requires a bit of rigor. Being that this is a fashion forum, I think at all stages interaction is to be the highlight, and in that the goal of these interactions is for all involved to gain in some form. On the broadest scale, I do believe most of us are and will be here for attention. But a personal gain might also be critique like you said, or the forming of a lasting or more deep real-world friendship, or simply the belonging to a group of people that makes you feel not only accepted but individually valuable, and I think the fact that posting pictures of you wearing clothes to the internet can provide that to some people is a very unique phenomena and a pretty universally positive gain to provide to people.

It would be very naive on anyone's part to try and ascribe the popularity at large of WAYWT threads to anything but grabbing at attention, but I also think it might be naive to dislike them for this reason (not that this was the message of your post). I certainly wouldn't want people hinging their financial decisions around purchasing expensive clothing to show strangers on the internet, but I don't see anything toxic in people sharing pictures of themselves for gratification. On the far positive side, I would say it's very good that, say, Soundclip can use the thread to showcase his creativity - the pieces he often wears, the pieces he makes himself - and in turn receives word from people on what they like, and then if he pursues selling his own garments, he has a vocal group of people to provide feedback. Of course this is an off example.

I should add I haven't posted an outfit to this thread yet because I haven't any pictures of me wearing an outfit I could say I'm proud of.

This line is a segue.

I got a pair of straight raw jenns and I like the way they look with my Beeswax Wallabees, but they look disproportionate on my legs with less substantial footwear (authentics). I think I'm going to end up getting trail oxfords or some other form of substantial low footwear. It's also another reason for me to buy Tomsfood's red wings :/. I consider this a very direct side effect of joining this forum.

The theme of this post has been "C'est la vie."
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby forestfeet » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:26 pm

In response to sidewalk

Short answer I think is yes, people post to WAYWT and other like threads for attention and validation. When you feel cool you want to know that other people think you look cool. Looking cool makes you feel better about yourself which may or may not help you out in the long run, whatever.

Thinking more in depth, I guess, for me (and I'd assume a lot of other people here too) fashion and clothing is a lot more than "put this thing on," it's another form of art and expression. You might argue that putting together an outfit with pieces made by other people isn't quite the definition of art, but I think of it as art in some more vague sense perhaps. You're collecting garments and arranging them in a visually pleasing way. I feel as though sometimes when you show "art" or any means of self expression (music, poetry, dance, etc) seeking out attention isn't always the first motive, it's just that you're really excited about this thing you're making or doing and you want to express it and display it... whether for approval or disapproval, it doesn't matter, you just need to get it out of your head and house and chest.

For me personally posting fits is about showing off the cool shit I've made recently. Sometimes I still wear outfits that don't have anything I made in them, but it's getting rarer, and so now it's nice to get feedback on my designs and thought processes. Also I like it when people tell me I look cool. Fine.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby rublev » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:31 pm

This is like the worst weather. Autumn will be worse. I love autumn but i kinda hate the limbo between summer and winter in which it can both be warm, chilly, rainy, windy etc. wtf am i meant to wear...
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby ballast » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:55 pm

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@heckawheel is this you

@smiles its on her tumblr
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:02 pm

Where is that image from.

Also I just started reading Zero History by Gilliam Wibson. Already on page two an effay reference:

“Call him,” he repeated, wrapped in Japanese herringbone Gore-Tex, multiply flapped and counterintuitively buckled.

Visdim? EG doesn't do gore right? Maybe nonnotive or North Face PL?
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby JtotheWhat » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:05 pm

I was torn on whether or not to post this in random jorts or here, decided on here because it's somewhat related to fashion. A constant theme around me, and something I am noticing that is a constant conflict for many entrepreneurs or artists in the fashion world (designers, boutique owners, etc.) is the constant balancing act of commercial viability and artistic or creative integrity. Over the years while I have attended school I have worked a few boutiques, as well as some ''cheaper'' (for lack of a better word) retail stores and I always hear discussions along the lines of ''this is awesome, but it won't sell..'' or '' this is such a poor design and such low quality, but it's what the people want''. Even on c-t we see it impact how designers alter their collections, and hear of collections that are critically acclaimed but commercial flops.

The reason this is bothering me so much lately is that I would love to in the near (or not TOO distant future at least) own my own b+m store, and I have no interest in compromising the vision I have to remain in business, is this just completely ignorant of me or is it possible? It's always reiterated in our culture that if you put enough work and passion into something you will see some success out of it, but looking around to all the people I know working at various levels within the industry that doesn't seem to be the case, from designer friends with dreams of being progressive designers now working at SPA brands, to almost every retail store owner I know having to carry brands they and their staff don't even care for because it is what pays the bills. It's a little discouraging and makes me think I'll have to just get old and achieve a ridiculous level of wealth and just treat any of my 'dreams' as a passion project and not something to support my livelihood.

Little bit of a rant and in likelihood it doesn't make much sense, but it feels good to type it out.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby rublev » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:17 pm

It's a COS women's shirt from the start of spring summer.

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Dunno if i'd really say it was a blatant rip off to be honest... certainly not the worst offender i've seen.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:27 pm

“Delta to Atlanta,” Sleight said, handing Milgrim a ticket envelope.

He was back in the very annoying suit he’d forgone for Myrtle Beach, tthe one with the freakishly short trousers.


I'll stop now.

J the world doesn't owe you a living, but you can do your best to just follow your dreams and see what happens.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby greggy » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:00 pm

the eternal struggle of balancing work and casual wardrobes continues in Chapter 4: Sweatpants


so, where do I get good quality sweats in £100-150 range? in size XS.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby stappard_ » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:08 pm

greggy wrote:the eternal struggle of balancing work and casual wardrobes continues in Chapter 4: Sweatpants


so, where do I get good quality sweats in £100-150 range? in size XS.




You might get away with these in a small?
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby Bobbin.Threadbare » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:14 am

dis mag is great but I didn't think they were going for the world. I think they're onto being a media contender.

http://disown.dismagazine.com
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby Rosenrot » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:53 am

@exprof - I've finally finished writing the essay on Sacai. Also posting here for anyone who might be interested.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby ab167 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:34 pm

Dunno where to post this, and I do not want to be too much of a d.so shill. Our profile of @maj went up today. He was a very good sport. (Non-fashion jort: thanks to maj and the other London-ish c-t folks for being cool.)
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby bels » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:32 pm

Nearly exactly a year since I did this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvi ... _majhacks/

Today's interview subject is Major Joseph Maximillian Hacks, aka potatoecam aka /u/majhacks [1] . He has assembled an album that he considers his greatest hits, be warned it is NSFW though: http://imgur.com/a/pNpxB [2]
I've done my best to make his answers sensible but honestly don't feel like correcting all of his punctuation, spelling and syntax, so just try to stick with it.

Everyone knows you work for minimum wage mining Lego bricks, but you own more epensive shoes than I do. How do you justify dropping so much money on ugly shoes?
never was a rich kid, when i was younger mum used to buy my clothes for me from tesco or george. Her logic was i broke them too fast to care. but i grey up in a state school, shit round there was about brands and the sickest 10 y/o had these fresh nike total 90 astros. mum bought me exact clones from george asda with 64 on the side. [i] wore them out[side and] got tore a new one, didn't mind tho as my mum bought them for me but it hurt a bit. ever since then i made a pact never to buy fakes or knock offs, and it blates fueled my obsession for shoes to be known as the one with the sickest crepe collection [--Ed I have no idea what a crepe collection is]
So are you saying you buy expensive clothes because your family couldn't afford them when you were younger?
p much if you break it down that far, but it also helps i like them as a whole. if that was the whole truth i wouldn't buy geos or cps (most my mates think they're fakes or tesco shoes anyway) i would be buying airmaxes or blazers if that was the case. i do enjoy the aesthetic of the things i buy, more so than what other [people think about them, though] that definately plays a part. Shoes are the only thing i can drop real money on without feeling dumb i work long hours, no bills and get paid monthly so it adds up. i don't use phones, i don't drive, i dont do holidays. Only thing i really like/can bring myself to spend money on is clothes. if i didn't like clothes i probably wouldn't be working as there is no point. That or i'd have a diffrent superfical hobby like video games
You obviously have to cut out some stuff and plan your purchases pretty deeply. That said I've never known you to scope classifieds or eBay or get excited about sales. How do you work out which clothes you will buy and what price you're willing to pay for them?
i look at pics and go shit thats dope, then work my way back. [I ask myself] is it vis[vim]? [if so there's] probably an american brand who makes the [same] look for less. It's all about buying substitutes when possible.
Your geos must have been about two month's pay
The geos were a tough save, 3 months to cover them comfortably
And you didn't go for a cheaper substitute.
i'll pay more if there isn't a substitute. geos are the example of this, no matter what people say there is nothing like geos on the market. anywhere. while saving for that 3 months i looked and looked to no avail.
So you're willing to cheap out if there's something that fits the bill for less, but when you decide there isn't, you just save up. I think a lot of people try to do that and end up failing. When you're dropping 3 months pay on something, how do you know it's what you definitely want?
truth be told i don't, there is always major uncertainty. after i buy somthing i'll fall in love with it and wear it loads then it'll sit in my wardrobe as i can't do anything with it for a few months then i'll wear it solid [...] when i realised its potential. also helps i buy versatile shit, as dumb as it sounds camo jacks, hi top sneaks and boots are all versatile pieces and can easily be worked to look like civilian items which is what i like. only piece i regret is my silent tee as it's so out there, but i'll make it work in the winter probs.
Right, I remember the Silent tee. Originally your fits looked like you were going to go drapey mono rick ninja but now you seem pretty set on doing a more military or workwear inspired streetwear aesthetic, how did that change come about?
i was getting bored with black, wore it solid for a few months and it just got boring, one day i put on my old blue asos jeans[,] geos and a cs tee and rolled into college felt dope as fuck. [it] still had the siloette [silhouette] of the old stuff i wore but looked wearable for the day time. [It] grew on me. wore more and more colour till eventually black is just used for highlights. people around me recieved it better so that contributed [too].
So if your style can swing like that, there's a chance that it'll swing somewhere else right? Do you just accept that might happen and get on with dressing for today rather than worrying about "building your wardrobe" ?
i think a lot of people dont realise that they buy new clothes every year anyway diffrently from last year, even if they're not into fashion. It's only as i'm on a fashion board it gets highlighted. 4 years ago i was really into bright shit. 3 years ago i liked muted shit. i think it's just down to what you feel like. i can see constant themes running throughall my shit, i've always worn nikes, i've always worn looser shit, i've never liked cardigans and i think that shows through all my phases. At the end of the day you don't want to be wasteful, havn't got thetime/money/effort to be. if you're constantly wearing diff stuff all the time you just look like you're playing dress up
So you're saying that you feel like you have a central aesthetic that you stay true to, and this allows or forces you to have a wardrobe that can do disparate looks, but is cohesive on some level so you don't have to worry about where it's going?
pretty much, there are certain rules i wont break and certain things i wont buy purely out of principle. I think this helps your wardrobe have a constant theme.
What would you say the constant theme of your wardrobe is then?
i'd like to think it's sportswear or just normal clothes. but better/diffrent. i take a lot of insperation from my peers and think how can i make that less gaudy so i guess at heart i'm a chav who found fashion
"Normal clothes but better/different" is such an inarticulate response that makes it seem like your wardrobe doesn't actually have a central theme at all and you've just been bullshitting.
u could say that i guess. and imply i spend money on whatever apeals to me to fill a void in my life. Which could also hold water.
Final question, why did you have sex with your MFA x Ebbett's hat. That hat might have had decent resale value if you hadn't put your balls in it.
always said if I bought geos i'd take a pic naked w. the mfa hat on my dick. A man who goes back on his word is not a man

That's all for today. Please comment about how maj's fits are boring and you don't see the point in these interviews if they're just going to be about "getting to know people the interviewer knows on IRC"
Thanks to EMACS's markdown mode for the formatting.


Someone make a note to interview maj again in August 2015
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby maj » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:50 pm

if there is one thing i've learned over all these years is whatever you say it doesn't matter as you're going to change ur mind in 6 months, just ride with what you like now and accept what comes later with open arms. gotta keep it fun.
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby DeafIdiotGod » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:30 pm

Thought:

How about a thread where people can post their new outfit ideas and ~style experimentation~ and what have you and get feedback and suggestions from other users? This sort of thing doesn't really belong in the question thread because they're not really questions, Buyer's Guide is mainly about stuff you don't have or only just got when you could be trying something out with existing items in your wardrobe and WAYWT is more about complete ideas rather than half formed ones.

It could be called The Lab or something

brb, looking for header quotes and flintstone for how to make what I just said needlessly obscure and oddly worded
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby soundclip989 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:27 pm

Life is a style experiment maan
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby JonjoShelvey » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:26 pm

anyone have any good articles on hand about post-moderninsm and fashion?
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Re: ramdom fashion jorts

Postby forestfeet » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:48 am

I read the @maj interview and I have to say-- damn kid. I haven't really had much interaction with you, but you seem like a very thoughtful person with a lot of interesting things to say and a really great outlook on clothes. I really enjoyed the interview. (also thanks for the shoutout, I was very touched.)

Ramdom thought that tangentially relates to fashion (not a jort, god damn):

Are you guys obsessive people? I'm really obsessive about hobbies and ideas, and I think part of that makes fashion really great for me, but partly horrible too. I used to be obsessed with collecting-- things, old photos ranging from the victorian era, vintage clothes, clothes in general, at one point sundresses, just stuff. Then I went through a period where I got rid of everything, just was obsessed with taking stuff to the thrift store and selling it. Now I've evened out a bit but I find I'm really obsessed with this sort of trite idea of "curation" and having the right things... not too many, not too few, just this pair of boots or that white shirt, whatever.

But also when I get into a hobby I feel this need to be the very best at it and win and it can make it really hard to enjoy things, but then on the other hand fashion feels like a sense of self and expression, so I feel very comforted by it, I can consume how it looks and feels without buying, but there's still that sense of brain takeover. Is obsession bad?
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