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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby rublev » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:17 am

dammit every time i see someone wearing all black stuff i think wow that looks really cool and badass i gotta do that and i try it but it looks really bad... like it just doesn't work... look like a lost school kid or something. I don't think MY FACE suits black clothing... if that's possible. I don't understand! I've been here before and i've said it here before but it kinda bugs me. I know i know, don't force things etc...

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby ramseames » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:36 am

JonjoShelvey wrote:

I'd say that stussy is not culturally relevant at all anymore. They diluted their brand past recovery and now most of the people who wear it are 15 yr olds who shop at zumies and 30 yr olds who still own their pieces from the 90s.

are there really enough people buying BAPE out there for them to still be a major player in the streetwear game? how are there still standalone bape stores? granted i don't live in a city so maybe I just don't see them. bape has their classics but I don't think they have evolved enough to be trend setters anymore.


Man where does this statement come from? Stussy isn't cutting edge anymore and you can buy it whenever you want, but they're still huge. Product is for the most part excellent, they have stores all over and they're actually still opening new ones (mainly in Asia).

Bape still sells massively. Never gonna recover to 2008 levels but everything good they produce sells out real fast. Stores are all over the place in japan, idk if they've cut down on the total number but it didn't seem like it.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby George Groby » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:13 pm

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Alpha Industries bombers have plastic shells in the cigarette pocket lol

Hi JonjoShelvey, I think the biggest problem is that after making an investment allocate of cash most persons aren't willing to offer the product enough of a chance and think it should just do everything perfect right out of the box regardless of what type of tobacco they put through it. In an perfect world this would be the scenario but, in real this hardly ever is applicable especially with any new system that has allocate of aspects to deal with. Some set up is almost always required.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby JonjoShelvey » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:11 pm

ramseames wrote:
Man where does this statement come from? Stussy isn't cutting edge anymore and you can buy it whenever you want, but they're still huge. Product is for the most part excellent, they have stores all over and they're actually still opening new ones (mainly in Asia).

Bape still sells massively. Never gonna recover to 2008 levels but everything good they produce sells out real fast. Stores are all over the place in japan, idk if they've cut down on the total number but it didn't seem like it.



I dont deny that stussy is massively popular, but so are Diamond Supply and Obey. I gueas stussy has more history which may put them above those two but IMO they just dont design intersting clothes anymore.


Don't get mw wrong I love BAPE I was just wondering who is the type of person who gets excited bape drops some new shit? I dont see it in chicago or on the internet really.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby anonomous » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:01 pm

BAPE is still quite big in Japan and Hong Kong IIRC.. Maybe Taiwan too. Well basically a lot of the East.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby anonomous » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:22 pm

On the topic of BAPE, In my experience, it had a huge influence in South East Asia. Growing up in Brunei, the coolest thing you could have on your shirt is some variant of Baby Milo (from BAPE).
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If you had one of these BAPE tees, you grab every other teen's attention and it basically signifies how 'hip' you are. Every time anyone saw one of those tees, they'd get asked where they bought it from because no one knew! There was never a straight answer. It was always, "oh, my mom bought it for me." or something along the lines that of buying it while travelling abroad. Just imagine seeing supreme everywhere but not knowing where to get it.

There was just something so cool about Baby Milo to the people in my country. Girls LOVED it because it was cute, guys loved it because it was hip/cool. It appealed to every age, gender and ethnicity there. Baby Milo became so popular that you'd get small companies or whatever making Baby Milo stickers which looked terrible to sell out to people, a lot of people would have it as their display picture on friendster or some kind of wallpaper. There was even a company who parodied the shirt and wrote 'FAPE' instead of 'BAPE'. We called it the Fake Ape, and it sold well for a bit then died quickly because having 'FAPE' on your chest is all kinds of wrong.

Of course, trends die and people move on. BAPE still exists now but on a much smaller scale, probably people rocking their 5 or more, years old tshirt.

Woah. Can't believe I remembered all that. Now i feel like i should get a BAPE tee before i return to Brunei in summer and maybe revive the Baby Milo trend again.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby CleanThug » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:41 pm

@maj

you predicted supreme x nike ss14

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby bhajz » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:24 pm

it's 93 degrees outside, I've finished school and i just want to wear baggy tees and gym shorts
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby HeavenResign » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:24 pm

TW: body stuff

I know this subject has been beaten to death so I'm sorry if this is trite and stupid horseshit. But on my journey for leather jackets I've been re-evaluating my thoughts and body type and fashion. I used to spout "yeah it's easier to dress fashionably if you're in shape but it can still be done" (notice I'm using the term fashion vs. style/dressing well for a reason).

What got me thinking was this image I pulled off styleforum about a mto vanson jacket:

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By all means other than very small details I think that's a pretty ideal fit for that dude.

Someone on SF asked "Huh. I wonder what makes the latter pic a more generic leather daddy stuff compared to the one above."

And some obvious answers might be...the dude's goatee, the fact that he's over 35 (he might not be that's just an example), his pants. But cut all that out, would I still say that jacket looks dope? Probably not, even though I love a well fitting perfecto.

http://www.broadwayandsons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/MG_1844.jpg


Why? I haven't figured that out yet, but I'm guessing it's because the dude has a (albeit small) gut and if he lost it he'd be a size down and thus conform more to my standard of a fashionable fit.

I want to apologize in advance if this comment is ignorant as fuck or offensive, I'm typing this out sort of quickly before I head out and it's hard for me to word this properly because I have a migraine
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby RycePooding » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:49 pm

Not ignorant of offensive, but I'm failing to see your point? Sure it's 'easier' to look 'good' when you're in great shape, clothing fits you better. There's almost no 'style' that looks better on a fat dude (ben had a couple examples somewhere, dude on a yacht with open Hawaiian shirt maybe?) but that doesn't mean that a bigger guy can't be into clothing or look great. We have a number of large guys here on care-tags that look good (I hesitate to include myself in this group because a.) I'm very self critical and am not sure how I look tbh, and b.) i'm not really sure if I fit into the fat guy group, though I am quite large,) and comfortable with who they are. The biggest differences that I see in those two pics is that one has better lighting and is being better 'modeled', dude against the green isn't out of shape at all, but we can also see his poorly fitting jeans. He doesn't wear the thing with confidence, and that's apparent as well. Doesn't have much to do with being fat.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby can- » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:00 pm

clothes look better on sexy people being styled and shot in a sexy way, but you can put anything on a lusty model and it will look good if the person is hot, has the right facial expression and posture, right filters etc.. more about styling than garments.

I think for some people they put on certain clothes which make them feel attractive, but for me it tends to be the other way around and if I'm feeling great about how i look it generally doesn't actually matter what I'm wearing. except for sharp tailoring. I always feel like a king in sharp tailoring
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby HeavenResign » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:40 pm

RycePooding wrote:Not ignorant of offensive, but I'm failing to see your point? Sure it's 'easier' to look 'good' when you're in great shape, clothing fits you better. There's almost no 'style' that looks better on a fat dude (ben had a couple examples somewhere, dude on a yacht with open Hawaiian shirt maybe?) but that doesn't mean that a bigger guy can't be into clothing or look great. We have a number of large guys here on care-tags that look good (I hesitate to include myself in this group because a.) I'm very self critical and am not sure how I look tbh, and b.) i'm not really sure if I fit into the fat guy group, though I am quite large,) and comfortable with who they are. The biggest differences that I see in those two pics is that one has better lighting and is being better 'modeled', dude against the green isn't out of shape at all, but we can also see his poorly fitting jeans. He doesn't wear the thing with confidence, and that's apparent as well. Doesn't have much to do with being fat.


First off thanks for the thoughtful response (this goes to ben as well), I think my post is as much about my personal biases than anything else which I'm more than welcome to have challenged. Truthfully I didn't think I needed a point and really I don't have one at all, I thought random fashion thoughts was a place to sort of voice whatever thoughts you have going on in your head concerning fashion out loud and if they create some discussion, then awesome. If not I'll change how I post here, I recognize I'm new here.

This isn't saying "big dude" can't look good, or dress well, or even fashionably. I guess I might be saying that sometimes a fit is off and I can't pin it to anything other than his body type which feels like a cop out to me, and it could also just be straight up wrong. But you can see the jacket ballooning a little at the waist, so would it really look better if he had a totally flat stomach and then could size down appropriately (also notice the shoulders seem a little big on the jacket, too)? Or is it something else I'm missing? Or is it the ever nebulous "confidence"? I don't like thinking that. On the other hand, I think thinking a fit looks good due to "confidence" is equally a cop out since I think very few people are actually knowledgeable concerning body language and it's thrown around as a term too often for something unexplainable. I guess I should've just posted that picture and asked about it without all of the other body horse shit stuff I brought into it, but I was sort of thinking out loud.

But concerning that picture, I already pointed out that if you crop the face/pants out (I just use my hands for this kind of thing pretty often), I don't think I'd consider it a really great fit but truthfully am not sure why. Also I think the confidence comment is a total cop-out that stifles discussion (I think this about 99% of comments concerning 'confidence', so that's my personal bias I guess), nothing about that dude reeks of inconfidence to me, the smirk on his face tells me he felt like a million bucks taking that picture. In fact just looking again at the second picture and say without a doubt if I had to assess the confidence level, the first dude seems much more sure of himself. Whether he actually looked the part or not, is of course, a different story. I just think the outfit looks much better in the second picture. The photography point is totally valid though.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby ramseames » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:58 pm

Why the trigger warning?

Agreed with ryce. Obesity isn't fashionable, but you don't have to be a small dude to look cool, you just gotta be self aware about what's gonna work for you and what isn't.

Also rice you're defs a part of that group (smiling)
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby HeavenResign » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:29 pm

i just wasn't sure of forum etiquette and wanted to be considerate i can not do it from now on though.

and yeah, in hindsight I think I would've just posted the two pictures and talked about the fits between the two and the likes/dislikes of them, and if body types came into that then so be it. My original post really does come off as incoherent, I felt really loose as I was typing it and should've re-read it
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby quad » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:05 pm

i hate jean pockets
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby CleanThug » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:24 pm

being unhappy with purchases is annoying, but can be really helpful in the long run. Will mull over large purchases in the future.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby ramdomthought » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:11 pm

I'VE BEEN SHOPPING AT SUPREME SINCE THEY FIRST OPENED IN 1994
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby bels » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:50 am

Dunno where to post this:


[vimeo]http://www.vimeo.com/9420627[/vimeo]

The show itself:

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby thomaspaine » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:56 am

Interview with asa akira on the hundreds. I was reading it for uh, science.

Thought this section was apt though. Don't know about 'daddy issues' but the amount of male to male posturing in streetwear and internet male fashion has always struck me as a little odd.

My thing is that in my industry, every guy in Streetwear or anything that’s kind of related to the street culture, they all have daddy issues.

And in porn, all guys have mommy issues. All guys in porn have either poor relationships with their mom or are too close to their mom. Just kind of weird, or their moms are dead.

So, Streetwear’s opposite?

Streetwear’s opposite where I had a terrible relationship with my dad. Or people who just grew up mostly without dads.

…single moms…

Guys kind of grew up without a father figure, and so they’re always looking for a dude’s approval and validation. So, if you go to a Streetwear party, it’s just all dudes checking out each other’s shoes and posturing and trying to wear the coolest clothes for other guys. And they’re totally fine with there being no girls.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby RycePooding » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:57 pm

My dad just decided he needs to look more professional as a boss so he asked me to help him order some clothes.... So yeah just made a uniqlo order with my dad.


Dress belt recs, on a related note.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby ramdomthought » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:26 pm

@bobbin.threadbare

Bobbin Brand Capes

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby kyung » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:30 pm

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what a pretty nigel cabourn shirt
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby bels » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:09 am

Lemme just check:

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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby Syeknom » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:13 am

Makes a certain sense given their marketing aesthetic/jizz over the past few years and they are very popular over here. That said i've a suspicion that this is primarily about the euro signs for Aitor - it's almost certainly a good offer given how well g star have been doing.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby starfox64 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:26 am

heckawheel wrote:What the bloody hell is Aitor doing, first he creative directs for Damon Albarn, then Kasabian and now G Star....

what are you playing at mate.

Not that those bands aren't good or whatever but I don't see them as very in line with his aesthetic.



Syeknom wrote:That said i've a suspicion that this is primarily about the euro signs for Aitor - it's almost certainly a good offer given how well g star have been doing.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby Syeknom » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:45 am

Don't see reason for judging a man for taking on jobs that give him good money in exhange for creativity. "purity" of coolness/vision is a bit silly a demand.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby maj » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:45 am

Aitor and kasabian met at a gathering some years ago and instantly connected on a personal level, a key theme for him is to work with people he relates with not only fashion wise but also on a personal level. I can't say anything too In depth about the others but Gstar has been pushing the anatomy idea in trailers and shit for at least one season prior and have interest in making products for the future past the standard jean with the knee darts ect it's just their execution is stuck in 2000 which aitor could change.

I'm not one to believe it was done for monetary value as it's fair to say the man doesn't have to beg for work, has to have some idea behind it.

That said it is Gstar, but on the other hand look what he did for Umbro, stone island and Cpcompany



Aitor Throup and the rock group Kasabian first met in Paris in the summer of 2010. The band, (formed in Leicester in 1997) and the designer were both invited to the French capital by Umbro, for an event to mark the reveal and launch of Throup’s England Away kit. Throup was already an admirer of the group’s music and approach, with their roots and understanding of tradition as prominent as their forward-thinking and at times experimental output. He instantly clicked with its members at the event, where all agreed to meet up again as soon as their schedules permitted. Over the course of the following autumn, the band and the designer met up repeatedly, and Kasabian’s songwriter and guitarist Sergio Pizzorno and Throup started plotting an approach to combine powerful visuals with the band’s following album.


http://aitorthroup.com/chapters/creativ ... /kasabian/
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby bels » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:53 am

Dunno heck. Football Hooligans, Jockeys, Umbro, marching bands etc all very Damon Albarn and Kasabian.

Aitor sometimes looks like the king cyberponk of all the land (especially if you just look at That Jacket) but I'm not sure he sees himself that way. To me his influences seem to be more related to casual culture, New Labour, britpop, David Kelly, police brutality etc.
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Re: ramdom fashion thoughts

Postby ramseames » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:24 pm

Yo anyone who thinks he's not cashing out with this is willfully blind. Not gonna make him proper rich but I'm sure it's at least a couple hundred k.
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