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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby alby » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:22 pm

I'd agree in a way. I've thought about it more and discussed it a bit, and I don't think that one can chalk up why they participate for such solid reasons like wanting to portray a lifestyle or to differentiate oneself, but rather they fall on scale of how much they differentiate, how much conform, etc.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby bels » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:33 pm

I hope ben becomes president and wears AF1s on AF1.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby oucho » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:14 am

I'm sitting in the McQueen lobby watching a man who works for a fabric company that develop fabrics for prada and Chanel show off a bunch of samples to a designer, cool

Edit: burberrys on and off apparently
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby Baddarn » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:35 am

ok but pretty boring for how much money u spent


Got this rep on a post today and it got me thinking a bit. Do you guys generally think something needs to look extravagant or super special to warrant the price of high end clothing? And further, does the uniqueness need to be "in your face"?
When I started getting into fashion I must admit I definitely thought so. I justified the price of Geos for being unique, the same for some RO drop crotch sweats. Lately though, I've started to turn on this completely. I've found more pleasure in the not so apparent details. The surface of reversed leather or a hand-smith silver buckle in which you can trace every little impact from the hammer.

For example, purchasing BBS tank tops, even at second hand, seems insane initially for being something so basic. But the perfect ribbing, raw hem and how the material wraps around your body really are qualities no HM tank could ever achieve. I guess things like that are hard to express through photographs and maybe because of it, bbs tanks make no sense seeing a pic of it over the internet.

This also leads into another interesting topic. The way internet fashion is conveyed through images and pretty often is disconnected from seeing pieces of clothing in person must have affected the way "internet style" has evolved. It feels pretty logical that clothing/brands with clear visuals and shapes (RO with sharp, almost graphic volumes or Raf with easy to photograph prints) have more success online only because their main qualities are easier to appreciate through a screen. At the same time brands with qualities in fabric, and texture to some extent (Schneider anyone?), doesn't have the same ability to express their strengths.

or maybe I'm just grasping...

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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby oucho » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:53 am

I think it's hard to dress in interesting clothing for less money, cheaper brands rarely produce 'out there' pieces and when they do their often not well executed. Even brands like Our Legacy tend to keep it pretty classical really and don't really match up to the more expensive designers in terms of really interesting clothing. So I guess that's where that comment stems from. Still it's obviously a pretty stupid thing to say and as you said there are details on more expensive clothes that arguably justify the price even if they are subtle. I agree that there are huge limitations to WAYWT threads, I think personality is really important in how I perceive peoples' outfits, that doesn't always get transmitted through the internet.

I guess alongside what you said about Rick and Raf being easy to appreciate through photography they are a kind of natural next step from the whole workwear thing. I think a lot of guys liked high quality workwear because it was a justification for expensive clothing. Obvious design is also a justification for expensive clothing. It's like, yeah I spent £500 on these shorts but you can see they are a piece of design. So quality has kinda been replaced by design and if you're not following that school of thought some people will laugh at you. Obviously I'm not trying to put down Rick or Raf or people who wear them at all. I just think a lot of guys need these obvious justifications because menswear is a whole new idea for them and traditionally a lot of men make fun of it.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby maj » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:09 am

Comments like that just stem from another not appreciating certain things you do at a level you Persue it, I wouldn't put too much weight to it.

The thing which turns ok clothes from omg I want to buy this clothes for me is how I feel it relates to me or if I like the context of its intentions away from being clothes. And I agree with your last point and oucho's that raf and ricks intentions are easy to see and so accessible of YOOF CULCHYA and DARK SPORTSWEAR that people instantly relate and make these emotional connections very early on and feel like some sort of club. The amount of people sucked in is no coincidence. They also attract two very distinct groups of Internet fashionistas, those who want to reject what everyone is wearing around them, and those who want to wear what everyone else is but "better" from my view. I'd make the suggestion the clothes which do worse on the Internet are those which are heavily based in cultural significance which just doesn't translate over the web unless it's rather prominent in mainstream culture or its reviewing marketingn/large hype, or clothes which are counter to the central demographic (there are a fare lot of it/ design based people who go to v good schools and somewhat good households, as a rule not true for everyone ofc) i mean not beig seen as a "broke boi/ poor/ chav/" or whatever derogatory socioeconomic term is flavour of the month are thrown around labeled as "jokes", so a lot of brands linked to those cultures are frowned upon with every forum usually having a certain demographic they view as lesser in society whether intentional or not.

Internet fashion is a v interesting thing to me.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby pips » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:48 am

I think it's unfair to judge whether a piece of garment is worth its price based on how interesting or boring it looks. Lots of well-designed clothes look so basic at first glance, not to mention there are lots of factors that go into pricing. Marketing and the brand name itself make up a big chunk of it, but if you remove that you have materials, labor, overhead, etc and also things like the amount of time and skill it took to construct and perfect the pattern for it, especially if it's something with a complicated construction. Fashion isnt just FASHION. Good design isn't limited to how fantastical or compelling it looks, even something as simple as a plain Rick shirt has details that set it apart from your regular Uniqlo tees. The weight and blend of the fabric (100% cotton), cut/drape/construction (single seam, irregular proportions), place of manufacture (Italy) plus the fact it's RO drive up the price. Yeah, it maybe just be a tshirt, but how many tshirts on the market can you find that fit and drape the same way?

I dunno, maybe it's because I tend to obsess over small details that arent obvious at first but I dont think clothes have to look interesting to be interesting or worth the high price. There's something wonderful about clothes that seem made just for you, fall just the right way, end at the perfect, precise spot on your leg or wrist or hip, or made with fabrics that feel magnificent against bare skin... all those little things make the price tag worth it. I think this is more apparent in womenswear with the wide range in body types, but if I manage to find a pair of jeans that can make me look like Lara Stone in a Calvin Klein ad I guarantee you I'd willingly hand over the cash for it (or if it's really way too expensive, hunt for it like a madwoman in secondhand markets). And that's just pants. I mean, even boring ass ethically made clothing are worth the extra cost if only to assuage your consumerist guilt.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby hamburgerlady » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:06 pm

pips wrote:There's something wonderful about clothes that seem made just for you, fall just the right way, end at the perfect, precise spot on your leg or wrist or hip, or made with fabrics that feel magnificent against bare skin... all those little things make the price tag worth it.


i think this is the main point i'm seeing and that i can relate to as well.
the 9-10k¥ price range on lad musician's "success rocker" t-shirts are no joke.
however i always find myself buying them because of how comfortable and soft they are in comparison to any shirt i've ever worn.
also due to my very thin frame, the sizing always seems to be just about "right", and the feeling of having something to return default to is great.
the way it drapes, the strong quality of them, and the general softness are what i really enjoy about them that i feel as though it's specific to the brand.
same could be said about a lot of the other things, denim, trousers, etc. there's little nuances that keep me coming back and buying/wearing.

of course i see how this is applied to rick owen's/robert geller/etc...'s clothes as well; which is what keep people coming back to their clothing.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby une_impasse » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:47 am

"I can't be a racist, most of my clothes are black!"
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby rjbman » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:56 am

I think for something like that you should probably include some context.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby rublev » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:10 pm

'i'll pay whatever i can afford to make me comfy'

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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby une_impasse » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:31 pm

rjbman wrote:I think for something like that you should probably include some context.


My closet has become overwhelmingly black due to my new job and my boyfriend is constantly and hilariously trying to provoke me to admit that being in an interracial relationship is just to make my parents mad. (He's joking obviously)
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby Ques » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:32 pm

had a free day and got to try on some cool OL garms, and one assembly NY piece

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comment-dit-on NEED

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silly or ~summery~

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HELLO denim parka

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lizard parka is pretty cool, seems like OL is finally getting the shoulders/hoods right on its outerwear

@aporea last season OL with frayed hems i think? maybe current season. was $100

@rublev small iirc, which is weird, as i normally have to size up for OL coats. this one was quite roomy

@deafidiotgod assemblyNY
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby mittens » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:59 pm

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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby rublev » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:06 am

looking for some olive work'ish pants... (probably not cargos but idk??), like quite stiff or rigid fabric that rolls well??

ebay is a minefield but looks like second hand / 'vintage' might be a good option. unless anyone has some recommendations? i guess something like those old town utility pants. need them for spring / summer.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby Bootsnpantsnboots » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:27 pm

Have you seen the story olive pants

http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashion/com ... n_and_red/
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby frogosaurus » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:53 pm

are levi's commuter pants any good for actually riding a bike? and in the rain?
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby IsaiahSchafer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:50 am

,,,,,mmmmmmm
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby vgtbls » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:11 am

How homeless did Dov look? Did he ask if you had kik?
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby IsaiahSchafer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:39 pm

He seemed to be in his normal t-shirt/hoodie/jeans getup. With those gold wire frame glasses he's always had. No kik, but he did have a young looking asian girl in tow as he frantically paced back and forth. Definite bloodlust lol. Not sure if he was foaming at the mouth or if that was just cocaine powder...
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby une_impasse » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:33 pm

nymag is featuring anna wintour's tenure with their magazine, here's some men's features she did that are ultra 80s and moderately amazing

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and http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/04/anna-wintour-at-new-york-the-fashion-features.html is another feature involving a young issey miyake and other legends who wintour featured pre-legend status. pretty cool
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby rublev » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:53 am

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i'm in love with this shade of green
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby nick » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:02 pm

One of those designers that changes one traditional detail of a garment and charges 10x the price should make a shirt that comes pre-stained with curry (Coffee works too). That way I can look down on others for not understanding rather than myself for being a slob when someone points out the stain I'm rocking.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby rublev » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:09 pm

@bela

here is the tech spec:

- Hardwearing Polyester Cotton
- Water repellent treatment finish & has a double seat for extra strength.
- Fabric weight 180g/m2. Polyester/Cotton
- Knee patches & multi zip pockets
- Great choice of colours


think i will cop
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby IsaiahSchafer » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:40 pm

I was thinking about what some fashion fan fiction would be like and long story short... Acronym Sex Swing. That's the future, folks.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby CMYK » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:54 am

My brother is currently in China on a school trip and is using the oppurtunity to pick up knockoff EVERYTHING. On one hand , huge SMH, but on the other hand he's a very non-aware high schooler, so he definitely doesn't care. Plus he's my brother and it's going to be hilarious seeing him stuntin in fake yeezys.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby nick » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:11 pm

I think nothing symbolizes the internet fashion nerd better than eating dollar slices in designer garments.

Not knocking it - its incredibly endearing and I'm incredibly guilty.
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Re: ramdom fashion sportswear crepes

Postby maj » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:21 am

With all these designers like raf and Raeburn putting knows knods in their work for their eastern customer base, how long is it till we see uc and such put out waywt and grailed motion
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