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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby ramseames » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:02 pm

Outlier value proposition for things that aren't the pants at this point is just straight up bad

If you ask Abe why this is $1250 usd he'll say some combo of:

* it's small volume which makes it less cost effective to produce

* neoshell is expensive

* making things in new York is very, very expensive but we insist on it

But as you've said you could get just about any acr jacket that's not insulated or leather, a nanamica gore hybrid thing, a Galvanic IS, really any hardshell trench on the market for the same price or less, and given that Outlier has middling qc (for this market segment) and doesn't work with shell materials much you could probably expect them to be better finished

http://www.qorkit.com/qor-neoshell-trench-12cbf3.html

I don't know anything about this brand but they can produce and sell a neoshell jacket with a removable hood for $450 and put it on sale for $300, so pretty much regardless of how shit this one might be the fabric can't be that $$.
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby adiabatic » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:05 pm

Calling these things "experiments" helps manage customer expectations downward. There's all sorts of ways to screw up something new, including ways that balloon the price.

I just got rid of a black trench and they're sold out of my size (XL) and *cough* $1250, so I'm not particularly bummed that I saw a teaser on Snapchat and saw this thread here before getting an e-mail about it…

Also: Black jacket on a black background? Well, technically the art direction could've been stupider and it could've been B&W photography like for some of their other products…
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby Copeland » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:26 pm

Looks like a Galvanic/Norwegian Rain imitation. Norwegian Rain is pretty cool and cheaper.
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby adiabatic » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Our High Tenacity Neoshell fabric, made in China, features a Polartec Neoshell membrane sandwiched between a nylon tricot knit inner and rugged high tenacity nylon canvas outer face.


Over on the Cute White Alien Site they're saying that the ACR-level price tag isn't quite so surprising because Outlier's doing new things with neoshell (all by itself, it's unstructured, and floppy trench coats aren't cool). Sounds like there's a significant R&D premium, spread out over a small number of garments.
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby odradek » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:06 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby CheerUpBrokeBoy » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:56 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby costanza » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:16 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby bels » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:42 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby rjbman » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:11 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby Moist » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:49 pm

Wow, I don't see an original idea in that whole lookbook. The shells have the same style and even placement of pocket as ACR jackets, bags are similar, some of the shirts have the same SISP dropcatch style chest pockets. Even this stitched hoodie
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby CheerUpBrokeBoy » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:59 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby bels » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:19 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby Stingray Sam » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:55 am

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby costanza » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:33 pm

watch this got dang series people:



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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby CheerUpBrokeBoy » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:58 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby bels » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:13 am

Nice to see one jacket through it's various iterations.

Wish acr would make some shells with non zipped pockets. Those waterproof zippers are really frustrating to unzip. Always a two hands job.

Also: People who own mainstream ACR do they use non snag velcro? I only have the nemen collab and it uses cheap ass velcro that looks like it's been glued on.
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby rjbman » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:25 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby odradek » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:48 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby rjbman » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:59 am

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby CMYK » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:12 pm

Been going down a cyberpunk wormhole on this last day of the year of our lord 2016

Transmetropolitan is a cyberpunk, transhumanist comic book series

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we live in a world that can be productively viewed through a cyberpunk lens

What "cyberpunk" means in light of current events

Likely because it represents the perfect confluence of things internet loves—superlatives (the most crowded place on Earth!), a weird, bloggable history, China, contrarianism, its image of the cyberpunk dystopia we're all rocketing towards—the city has, in some portrayals, transitioned from one of the world's worst slums into "the modern pirate utopia."

Brief history of the Kowloon Walled City. The video linked is highly recommended.
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby bels » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:49 pm

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby candy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:53 pm

if i wasn't so super keen on things being organized, this would be my goals.
(half of my room looks like this, only with guitar pedals + cables)

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby maj » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:54 pm

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solutions to the cyberpunk problem

Postby pirxthepilot » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:04 am

yeah it's 'culturally significant' but i can't read the awful genre prose (and anyway far too late to start now). post useful manifestations (films, tv, twitter accounts, memes, gifs, buzzfeed listicles etc). please be discriminating, i watched a whole season of mr robot on a teen recommendation and it was (mostly) terrible.

edit: this brilliant acrnm short is the kind of thing im looking for, why did i not see this on CT

https://vimeo.com/159828594
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Re: solutions to the cyberpunk problem

Postby nope » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:10 am

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Re: solutions to the cyberpunk problem

Postby bels » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:12 am

https://twitter.com/FFD8FFDB

http://prostheticknowledge.tumblr.com/

http://new-aesthetic.tumblr.com/

aft3r.us

hyperdub.net

That Quechua video was a great progression on the one from the end of SS14 https://vimeo.com/89358873 which had a bit too much "cyberpunk aesthetic" for my taste

(the reason no one linked it here is that it's assumed that everyone interested is already watching all Quechua videos)

((You'd expect someone who set up an entire thing based on a William Gibson quote to have more of a grip on cyberpunk.))
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Re: praying for digital consciousness uploads before i die

Postby pirxthepilot » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:58 am

1. is there any meaning to the text on the FFD twitter or just graphic
2. who/what is quechua
3. do u think ppl get in the art game to work hard?
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Re: solutions to the cyberpunk problem

Postby rjbman » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:01 am

pirxthepilot wrote:yeah it's 'culturally significant' but i can't read the awful genre prose (and anyway far too late to start now). post useful manifestations (films, tv, twitter accounts, memes, gifs, buzzfeed listicles etc). please be discriminating, i watched a whole season of mr robot on a teen recommendation and it was (mostly) terrible.

edit: this brilliant acrnm short is the kind of thing im looking for, why did i not see this on CT

https://vimeo.com/159828594


lad if you can't get through Neuromancer why did you start a cyberpunk thread?

in terms of some cinematographic content:
  • Ghost in the Shell - YUUUUUGE cyberpunk anime movie with tons of spinoffs (think like 3 seasons of a TV show, another 4 part series a year or two ago, and a live action film coming out this year)
  • Blade Runner - Harrison Ford is a total badass in the camel coat. Hunts down androids, "tears in rain" etc. Huge source for the neon + fog aesthetic that /r/cyberpunk is in love with. Sequel soon w/ Ryan Gosling (Ford still in it too). Based on Philip K. Dick novella "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", which is significantly different but one of those rare moments when both book and film are Good.
  • Animatrix - Will say Matrix is also a damn good movie, but this collection of animated shorts blows me away every time. Shows a wide variety of content from pre / during Matrix events

    Fingers crossed this year will be good w/ the GitS remake and Blade Runner 2 sequel but I'm really not holding my breath
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