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Postby WikiZuHeltzer » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:32 pm

How the fuck do you pull in a club? This shit is so alien to me, yet my mates have no trouble. I've asked them what they do & they just say that I'm missing obvious signs. Bullshit mate, I'm scouting, what am I looking for?!
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Postby exprof » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:51 pm

@rublev I really feel for this, referendums on secession/independence are such a touchy subject... Even though the last Quebec referendum was almost 20 years ago people still get into arguments over it. I really hope things work out without any violence there ;_;
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Postby Stolsdos » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:29 am

Wow, so I this girl I had a mutual friend with and had a crush on turns out wants my number. I am so psyched.
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Postby Stingray Sam » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:16 am

It seems like even mentioning the potential for a casual relationship on tinder is super taboo, at least where i live. Isn't the whole purpose of tinder just for causal relationships/sex?
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Postby okayfruit » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:31 am

One of my favorite things to do is to mix guacamole into spanish rice and then eat it with a spoon.
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Postby nevergreen » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:12 am

nevergreen wrote:just now i was on my phone not even close to dying at 80% and it shuts off for no reason then gets stuck in a boot logo.... wtf? 4s on ios7 not even jailbroken. now i'm restoring my phone which means losing all my data.

like i just don't even understand how that even happens????? so fucking annoying man i just don't get it

as an update to this i couldn't restore my phone bc i was getting error 9 and i tried doing a bunch of different shit that was supposed to try to fix it. couldn't do anything so i go to the apple store and all their laptops are getting the same error i'm getting. shit is plain broken i may try to jailbreak it to try to overwrite the firmware and get it past the apple logo but after the apple store i went to a local att store and ended up buying an s5—i was gonna wait until the 6 was out to use my upgrade but i wasn't rly gonna go without a phone for a week so...

originally i was on an s3 and i loved it but i the screen broke and there was no point in getting it fixed when my family had an extra 4s that was my brother's old iphone when he upgraded to the 5s so i was using that for maybe 4(?) ish months until the other day happened and for a little while i was actually really unsure of my decision to go back to an android platform but a day later i'm back used to it and everything (to me) is so much more natural than on an iphone

plus having removable storage is nice cause i can put a bunch of music on my phone again. tho i do wish the sensor in the camera was better bc iphones definitely take crisper shots no question. i still kinda do wish i could get the iphone6 tho it looks so nice...
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Postby WikiZuHeltzer » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:00 pm

Job front is actually getting places! I went round and gave my CV to every single lettings agency within a half hour walk of my dads. I have two years experience from when I was at uni and I'm cashing it in in a form of desperation. Got some phone interviews lined up already for next week :woop: . Its not at all where I want to be going but at least I'll have income while I look for something more suited to my preferred career path...

Also found a raffidas lighter at my mates:

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When he asked why I was taking a picture, I had to explain raf and stuff. He's obsessed with the fred perry gear now.
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Postby bels » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:21 pm

Are you saying you're going to become an estate agent.
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Postby bobo77 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:26 pm

I haven't had Indian food in like a month literally had a 20 minute dream where I had dinner with random adults from my hometown at a nice Indian restaurant. When I get some money I'm gonna go out for Indian. mmmmm
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Postby nevergreen » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:40 pm

this could probably go in the art thread but i think more people would see it here.

on the topic of authenticity of art: do u think it loses authenticity when it starts to be commercialized? and in the case of when art is made for aesthetic purposes, do u think it loses authenticity when it's being bought for its aesthetic value? ndebele murals and paintings were very often politically motivated but also were also used to make an area better looking. today the ndebele themselves (as opposed to the westerners) take huge advantage of the western world's desire for other culture and so people are purchasing the art because they like the look of it.

sort of having trouble putting my thoughts into words atm but i think i made myself clear. curious on anyone's opinion
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Postby odradek » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:07 pm

Commercialization of art can be art in and of itself. if it weren't, we wouldn't be talking about andy warhol. That said, when commercialization isn't part of the art, the level of commercialization shouldn't affect it. Thomas Kinkade is dull whether or not the painter of light is mass-produced, posters reeled off in masses to sell at a concert aren't any more poorly designed just because they're sold at a mersh table. The only time commercialization should be an issue is if the art itself is anti-commercial but is mass-produced (see: Shepard Fairey).

Ultimately, though, you're the arbiter of what you like and what you consider art ("Art World" notwithstanding) so how you respond to how an artist responds to success will be a personal thing and that's one of the best things about art.
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Postby kewks » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:22 pm

kewks wrote:so i work in retail, and tonight was a peculiar night
i was helping this woman, and she was looking for her size in the leggings so i helped her. she looked a little bit cracked out (like meth scabs) but was generally nice and making conversation so i didn't make any judgements. we sometimes lock customer's bags up for their security and ours (since we don't have locks on fitting rooms), so i locked it up. she came out of the fitting room to get her bag, didn't want to buy anything and when she bent over to unlock her bag, i see that she is wearing a pair of our $22 leggings with the tag still on under jeans. and i'm like "Excuse me, you forgot to take off the leggings" and she made an excuse that it was her underwear, and i said "nope, pretty sure it's ours.. the tag is still on" and i was like, go and take that off. i'm calling security right now blah ablah blalhao and she took it off and i coudl SEE HER VAGINA BECAUSE SHE WASN'T WEARING ANY UNDERWEAR. and i was like wtf. and then she ended up leaving her ENTIRE PURSE including wallet/ID in the locker... so now i threw away the leggings and sent off her bag to the office. strange night


UPDATE: today at work this man came in and approached me and said that he was her sponsor, asking for the bag back. he had her birth certificate etc so i just gave it back to him. i don't think a random guy would have had her birth certificate. hooray! at least someone cares about her. poor girl
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Postby yoyobeat » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:50 pm

@nevergreen your question isn't really about art so much as it is authenticity. Unfortunately I don't have the full text (http://www.researchgate.net/publication ... cago_Blues) but the gist is that you might consider starting to think about authenticity not as a quality, or a fact, but as an argument. The essay is about blues musicians in Chicago and how the entire structure of blues clubs is set up like con games (think 3 card monte on the street). There are shills, marks, and so on. Everyone fulfills a different role. And when you frame the whole deal in this way, authenticity becomes a wholly different question. It's not even a fact. Authenticity depends on whether the mark has been convinced that the show, atmosphere, performers were authentic. It's as simple as that. If someone has been convinced of authenticity, then it's authentic. If they have not, it's not. Again, authenticity as argument, not fact.

Sometimes cultural producers (i.e. artists, gallerists) try to convince you that something is authentic. Other times it's the consumers convincing each other or raising questions of authenticity that the artist never considered.

So to answer your question: art has lost authenticity when it is commercialized only to the extent that you are no longer convinced it is authentic. To others with less knowledge, the commercialized art may be super authentic. To others with more knowledge than you, the art you consider authentic may be inauthentic to them.
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Postby charybdis » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:36 am

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@amikrumpingnow I wasn't going to say anything, but you do realize that the entire list is opinion pieces right?
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Postby IsaiahSchafer » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:39 am

That doesn't help me feel any better about the over abundance of strawman arguments.
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Postby yoyobeat » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:00 pm

i'm getting ahead of myself, but a little worried that elderliness = irrelevance in America. So many times I'll see old people hobbling down the street by themselves, and I get this sad, beige feeling. How can I show respect to elderly people, both those I know and don't know, without patronizing them?
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Postby jrisk » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:16 pm

npr blogs giving care-tags thread names a run for their money
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Postby IsaiahSchafer » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:01 pm

>"I do not like this" =! "this lacks journalistic integrity" though

Never even said I didn't like those though I guess I implied it, and I said why it lacks journalistic integrity- strawman arguments. Which makes what you've said a little bit ironic, given my mention of misrepresenting someone's argument.

>Of all the things to have a fucking cry about

Integrity? What a dumb thing to complain about? Journalists exploiting hyperbole, misrepresenting arguments, making click-bait articles just to pander to an audience.

Man, fuck you guys. I would hope more for care-tags than letting it be just a sounding board. What the hell is "come on man" even supposed to mean? I simply present my view on how people presented their argument, and how I didn't like it. Not even taking a side, and everyone has to come out to vaguely insult or put down my opposition to not even to the argument, but how they argued it. That is some really stupid "shit" to get sick of. fuck that.
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Postby starfox64 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:18 pm

you're the probably least sympathetic person on this board in terms of the broadly-defined idea of equality between the sexes, and this is going to influence how people react to your statements, especially when they're related to, say, a list of pieces about inequality between men and women.

no one is stopping you from presenting your view, just don't be surprised when you get static
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Re: ramdom jorts

Postby sidewalk » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:29 pm

actually im in the process of stopping him. go to my kickstarter and donate with how much money you think shows your support for this cause. $20 is like a signature but $100 shows how strong you feel.

edit: negs also show support

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im pissed. this ends now
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Postby freddy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:36 pm

@charybdis I think we all have a some sort of projected "woman problem" (yes, I'm self-incriminating myself), even in womenswear fashion too.

Just think about the lack of plus-sized model fiasco. I think there can be a lot of inherent problems within modeling industry in of itself. le XYZ women is no represented enough, blah blah blah
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Re: ramdom jorts

Postby ramdomthought » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:38 pm

i have a sane people problem

ramdomthought is in my life

kill me
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Postby freddy » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:41 pm

sounds like a problem for someone who studies fashion academically idk :woop:
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Postby odradek » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:35 am

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Re: ramdom jorts

Postby freddy » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:34 am

@mc-lunar one day... ;))
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Re: ramdom jorts

Postby bels » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:52 am

Hard to pick up on. I
have to pretend that
Russia does and does not.

Appropriate to reduce,
but the men know.
They turned the girl
basically the same.
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Re: ramdom jorts

Postby IsaiahSchafer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:03 pm

@germinal How am I a misogynist? I've gone back through my own posts even trying to find something. I'll say right now I don't mean to be abrasive, but I will try and be nicer or more sympathetic in how I frame my questions and viewpoints in the future. I believe myself to be far, far from anything resembling a misogynist. I don't consider myself an MRA and I don't consider myself a feminist. I am completely in favor of equality, or equity where applicable.

In all my comments, I've never meant to make people feel like I'm against women or minorities or anything. On the whole, I feel like my approach has been to discourage hyperbole, misrepresentation of another's argument, using false or misleading statistics, and using logical fallacies to try and gain support. “The truth is like a lion; you don’t have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.” Women are disadvantaged in many regards, and the fact that they are will stand up to scrutiny, so I believe a well-reasoned argument to promote the cause of gaining equality is always better than an underhanded or fallacy-fueled approach. I don't think anyone on this board is guilty of this, but I am trying to provide background for why my distaste for certain articles is not representative of a distaste for the goal they're trying to achieve.

I apologize for being abrasive or offensive or making anyone feel like I'm against you or a cause you support for equality.
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Postby nevergreen » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:26 pm

amikrumpingnow wrote:and I don't consider myself a feminist. I am completely in favor of equality, or equity where applicable.

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