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Postby smiles » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:29 am

Got an interview request from Royal College of Art!

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Postby finolino » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:00 pm

hey, guys

me and a few friends are doing a project for school regarding gender and economic disparity issues as they relate to high school students around the world. if you hs students out there who see this could just take a few minutes out of your time today to fill it out, it would really be helpful to us. we're only about 50 or so responses away from our target goal, and we're planning on releasing the results tomorrow, so any contribution would help! thanks in advance!

http://goo.gl/mr1YSf

(note: current hs students only, though i suppose if a fr in college put themselves down here as a hs sr no one would bat an eye)
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Postby harmsalmon » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:00 pm

auditions in Chicago so far are going awesome. I think I totally killed the Emerson and Boston University ones, Fordham one was alright but I wasn't too hyped on it anyway. DePaul tomorrow!!

in other news I just ate what was possibly the best meal of my life.
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Postby rublev » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:01 am

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lol, okay i CANNOT breath see you all in another month! the last option for an interview is the 19th of this month which is weird 'cos apparently sculpture and environmental art interviews are usually first and design isn't until into march but.....okay
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Postby Rosenrot » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:37 am

I am starting parkour next week as part of my journey of self-discovery.
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Postby silvaeri » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:11 pm

pondering if:

a) i should even invite my dad to my graduation

b) he'd even want to come
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Postby harmsalmon » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:25 pm

tomsfood wrote:COME TO BOSTON WE'RE THE BEST


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Postby DeafIdiotGod » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:08 pm

Writing a review / analysis of the new Adam Curtis film and realising just how much I missed writing.
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Postby Ques » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:14 pm

i just spent two hours watching youtube videos of people being able to hear for the first time

FEELING EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL FOR NO REASON RIGHT NOW

also the only thing i remember dreaming about last night was that my entire family died of cancer and i cried on my french teacher's couch for what seemed like an entire day

i guess one of my great fears in life is that if someone i know and care about dies, that i won't be able to cry and everyone will think that i'm a sociopath, including myself
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Postby Mippipopolous » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:16 pm

For the second year in a row, it was so cold that my eyes watered and then my tears froze in my eye lashes on the way to class. Damn it, winter.
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Postby Capt » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:53 am

Thanks for the article! I really enjoy reading well thought out opinions that make reflect on my held beliefs. It's funny, I find myself disagreeing with the overall premise but agreeing with parts and pieces. What I felt was that this person sees that our education system isn't working, and suggests how to fix it using what he has experience with, the humanities. Just like an engineer will think that more mathematics and sciences will solve our problems, and a farmer will think more hard work from the students will solve everything. And they're all correct! No single fix will be a panacea. Which is why I have a hard time agreeing with his white and black science vs. humanities outlook. Many of our most respected artists and philosophers (especially during renaissance periods) respected both ideas. All had to earn a living by buying into society somehow, unless they came from a very rich family, which many did. Hell, even Pliny the Elder was a lawyer and military commander.

I can certainly see his frustration at the continued erosion of the arts and humanities. It's terrible watching art and theater programs being dropped from high schools. Bringing out creativity and encouraging students to observe and analyze their world is very important. It gives perspective to the world being explored by the sciences. Knowing that something can just be without being understood or perfected and being okay with that is a very powerful realization. It's something that can't broken down logically. Having an opportunity to view the world differently shouldn't be robbed of our students.

The best reason I can think of why math and sciences are being so heavily emphasized right now is because they are really good paths to having a nice comfortable life. With the economy doing back-flips and the albatross of student loans that'll weigh you down for years to come, I can't blame someone to go for the sure thing. Also, math and sciences have been very kind to our country, it makes sense that we'd encourage people to follow that path. The author is vastly ignorant if he thinks that sciences do not encourage creativity. I haven't found anything that can inspire wonder or the thirst for exploration than from discovering something new. Creativity doesn't just come from flowery language or through oil paints, and discovering how the world works doesn't have to be solved with an equation.

Though what do I know? I'm just one those unquestioning followers that chose sciences over the humanities. Maybe this is just me seeing how the world could be fixed based on my experiences.
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Postby INNIT » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:50 am

Capt wrote:What I felt was that this person sees that our education system isn't working, and suggests how to fix it using what he has experience with, the humanities. Just like an engineer will think that more mathematics and sciences will solve our problems, and a farmer will think more hard work from the students will solve everything. And they're all correct! No single fix will be a panacea. Which is why I have a hard time agreeing with his white and black science vs. humanities outlook.

an engineer wouldn't tell you that math and science are the solutions to the world's problems, he (gender specific pronoun intended) would avoid the debate completely

but on a more serious note, the author doesn't really paint a black and white picture of humanities vs sciences. he notes (in depth) the economic practicality of the sciences and even explicitly criticizes the way humanities are being taught in secondary and post-secondary institutions:

But let me be clear: I write this not to provide tinder to our latter-day inquisitors, ever eager to sacrifice the spirit of scientific inquiry in the name of some new misapprehension. That said, I see no contradiction between my respect for science and my humanist’s discomfort with its ever-greater role in American culture, its ever-burgeoning coffers, its often dramatically anti-democratic ways, its symbiotic relationship with government, with industry, with our increasingly corporate institutions of higher learning.


It troubles me because there are many things “math and science” do well, and some they don’t.


Still, the evasions and capitulations made by those on the secondary-school level are nothing compared with the tactics of their university counterparts, who, in a pathetic attempt to ape their more successful colleagues in the sciences, have developed over time their own faux-scientific, isolating jargon, robbing themselves of their greatest virtue, their ability to influence (or infect) the general population. Verily, self-erasure is rarely this effective, or ironic.


the author doesn't dismiss job creation as an important benefit of education, but does question whether education could serve some other purpose that society is ignoring:

Could there exist, buried under our assumptions, another system of value? Could our colleges and universities have another, truly “critical role,” which they ignore at our peril? A role that might “serve the nation” as well?


on a different note, this point:

One teaches some toothless, formalized version of these things, careful not to upset anyone, despite the fact that upsetting people is arguably the very purpose of the arts and perhaps of the humanities in general.


hit particularly close to home for me. when i was growing up conversations about politics, social progressivism,religion, etc were practically taboo because they "upset" people. why was it that these things couldn't (and for the most part, still can't) be discussed? are humans so intellectually frail that any sort of controversial subject matter will render them an emotional wreck? or is it because western education in the 21st century discourages sincere critical thinking and leaves students stranded on an island of intellectual insecurity.

education no longer primarily focuses on teaching students to critically think or formulate coherent thoughts. the purpose of education is to create jobs, with maybe a bit of that other stuff thrown in on the side. this is of course doubly true for post-secondary, where students are crippled with debt and pressured to study something that will net them a salary

of course the humanities are also guilty of being job-focused. many english degree programs now have practicum components. instead of spending your semester studying ethics and theology, you get to write business documents for some company.

it is in this way that we lose part of what education has to offer: knowledge for the sake of knowledge; knowledge in and for itself. debate and discussion among peers is sacrificed at the expense of the holy practicum. students are robbed of one of the only chances they'll get to discuss important topics with (hopefully) engaged and inspired peers

whether or not education being "job-focused" is a bad thing is up for you to decide. the high tuition rates in the USA, for example, might make you more sympathetic towards this model.

i personally believe that there is a middle ground between rigorous job creation and intellectual development that is currently not being met in all areas of study.

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Postby ramdomthought » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:12 pm

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Postby ramdomthought » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:12 pm

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Postby Capt » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:09 pm

Yep, I caught on fire while checking the fuel injectors on a project car. I think I'm done trying to do the work myself.
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Postby mike868y » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:22 pm

fucked up simple arithmitic
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Postby mike868y » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:22 pm

fucked up simple arithmetic and now my rent check is going to bounce if my landlord cashes it before this paypal transfer clears.
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Postby ramdomthought » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:42 pm

complained in irc about this

come home after a good day of studying, getting on a roll of productivity

roommates are FINALLY cleaning the mountain of dishes they had in the sink, good stuff

one pan was added to the pile apparently

the cast iron pan i've been seasoning for the last year

and a mound of soap went into it

why does everything i love have to die at the worst times
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Postby freddy » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:49 pm

Fighting constipation with one packet a a time.

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who am I kidding? There's barely any fiber in there :/
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Postby smiles » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:01 am

Someone who lived in San diego for 18 years thought I was british after talking to me. What.


this has happened numerous times. often from americans. I don't think i sound british.
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Postby bels » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:49 am

Do you have one of those international school accents miles
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Postby jrisk » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:39 pm

what good are sweatpants if they're not long enough to wear over your belly button
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Postby harmsalmon » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:50 pm

work is so slow rn
looking forward to my $5 tipout
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Postby harmsalmon » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:27 am

update: got cut early and got an oreo mcflurry :sweg:
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Postby brlmski » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:28 am

in the process of removing all non value adds from my life. it's surprisingly hard.
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Postby meatjacket » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:24 pm

v sick today

so instead of reg school, im taking my online driving courses. almost half way done!
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