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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby venilla » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:43 am

Applying for transfer to a UC (aiming for berkeley since it's nearby and cool classes related to major) fall 2015 and I've got one month left to finish my apps. Hard to focus on writing my personal statements with all my current coursework. Calculus blows, I'm failing and I probably gotta retake it next quarter. Anyone got any tips to study/learn calculus? (currently learning derivatives and application of derivatives)
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby rjbman » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:20 am

GO TO OFFICE HOURS! ALL OF THEM!
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby exprof » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:50 am

@rublev i know you were considering glasgow school of art, would you recommend it? considering going there for a semester or two...
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby smiles » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:32 pm

Applying for graduate school is really nerve-wracking. I have the motivation but it feels like I'm getting nowhere. For one school you have to email a teacher before hand to present what you'd like to do, hopefully I wont make a fool of myself. On the other hand, if he asks me to apply then I reckon i've got a pretty good application.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby rublev » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:02 pm

exprof wrote:@rublev i know you were considering glasgow school of art, would you recommend it? considering going there for a semester or two...


@exprof yeah gsa is an amazing school (and i love glasgow). what would you be coming to do? i can probably help as even though i don't go there (yet) i've known people who have been through different departments and i generally 'know' the school. are you looking at other UK options?

there's a lot of money going into gsa just now. the amazing reid building designed by steven holl has recently opened right opposite the historic mackintosh, and is really beautiful

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also i can give you tours :woop:
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby yubbermax » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:00 pm

I was planning on graduating this spring but I met with my advisor today and it turns out I still need to take spring semester and 4 additional gen ed courses. Kinda disappointing but it does leave me with some interesting choices. I could take classes this summer and/or next winter and get it over with. I could get another internship for the summer and go back in the fall or possibly study abroad for fall semester. Another option is to try and get a 6 month co op and go back in the spring/study abroad.

I only have 1 summer worth of industry experience so working would be nice but if I could just graduate and get a job. I'm majoring in plastics engineering btw.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby exprof » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:39 pm

@rublev Ahhh that new building is amazing! Glasgow seems like such a nice place, the buildings are of course all very beautiful.

I study design, specifically what I guess is most commonly known as "new media" but it seems the equivalent there is "digital culture"! I think I'll end up clearing most of my electives (probably an intro to metalwork and something else)... I'm mostly looking based on school rather than location, (my next choices are places in France/Germany) but this seems really promising. I've heard that it's quite competitive to get in on exchange, especially in the english speaking countries, but I'll be applying anyway (smiling)
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby thatbiglake » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:03 am

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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby rublev » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:47 am

exprof wrote:@rublev Ahhh that new building is amazing! Glasgow seems like such a nice place, the buildings are of course all very beautiful.

I study design, specifically what I guess is most commonly known as "new media" but it seems the equivalent there is "digital culture"! I think I'll end up clearing most of my electives (probably an intro to metalwork and something else)... I'm mostly looking based on school rather than location, (my next choices are places in France/Germany) but this seems really promising. I've heard that it's quite competitive to get in on exchange, especially in the english speaking countries, but I'll be applying anyway (smiling)


@exprof ahhh okay yes, i know of digital culture. i think that's in the barnes building with sculpture and environmental art etc, so not the new reid building (which is mostly fashion, textiles, jewellery, interior etc). but it's all on the same campus. barnes building is a bit older but digital culture is on the top floor in a big white space. because it's quite a new addition to gsa it seems like they've put a lot of cash into it, as i remember seeing a lot of equipment etc, when i was there last year. gsa is generally quite hard to get into - their acceptance rate is lower than places like csm and other london schools..., but i don't know what they're like for exchanges.

i'm guessing you've looked here? also this is the digital culture blog.

i don't know the reputation for digital culture, but for things like architecture, environmental art, textiles etc, it always comes out top / close to top. research wise it's the second largest in the UK (for art and design), and there are centres like the digital design studio and the centre for advanced textiles. the school also gets a ridiculous amount of nominees for the turner art prize (3/4 are glasgow schooled / glasgow based this year).

here is the new gsa magazine that has come out to coincide with the open day that was last week.

edit; oops, i got a bit carried away, especially after you said you were looking at school rather than location, but here's some thoughts anyway
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it maybe also depends on what kind of city / experiences you like. glasgow is a big city but still feels small. it is not close to the experience of somewhere like london. i've heard people compare it to places like portland and also antwerp..., other smallish european cities (i find it difficult to compare to anywhere else because it feels like you need to know the two cities really well to make any worthwhile comparison). it's small enough that you can really walk everywhere you want to, but it has the oldest underground train service in the UK too. it's a very lively city and culture is really very important, whether it's contemporary art, music, dance etc, and the art school is very much part of that. it feels like an artist city in a way - lots of artists stay or move to glasgow because of the atmosphere (and it's cheap). a lot of old warehouses and buildings left over from deindustrialisation have been turned into used spaces all over the city. it can feel both gritty in parts, but also quiet and tranquil (in the west end you can be 10 minutes from the centre but surrounded by tree lined streets and only hear birds and no cars or traffic). i won't go on but it's a great place to live. but it's not a sprawling metropolis like other major european cities. but i think that's a good thing. also remember you're in beautiful scotland, and only 40 minutes away from edinburgh etc
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Ques » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:26 pm

really want to declare a math minor, hoping that it would help balance out my Foreign Languages major and show future employers i can be quantitative as well as qualitative

also only have to take three more math classes and they all sound super fun (linear, discrete, + elective (want to take geometry with this super cool prof who's phd is in geometry; super excited))

except doing so means i can't take any more electives, and i wanted to take some fun ones from the gender studies + history departments

decisions decisions
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Ques » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:39 pm

@exprof i came in to college already having taken multivariable and ive already taken a math class for fun, so it's not too hard for me
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby JtotheWhat » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:57 pm

Decided to take a black and white photography class this semester...it might be the lowest mark I ever get in class... we had todo photograms the other day and I got a low score because the professor said the writing I did on mine was ''illegible''....it was Korean.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Blastoise » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:49 pm

Thinking about switching to product design (or design of some sort) because I'm really not feeling English at all right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But in other news I'll probably be declaring my music major (or minor, haven't decided) tomorrow. At least we'll be going over potential classes.

Interested in too many things.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby vgtbls » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:18 am

Today my school plays @rjbman's school in football. Let the mild rivalry begin! :woop:

Can't wait to see how badly our punter does. To be fair he's a redshirt freshman but damn
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby zayg » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:33 pm

at the point where i'm willing to loan my cat out for the rest of the semester in exchange for someone doing the rest of my work as long as you bring her back safely

she's rad, trust me
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby conhnore » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:56 pm

academic rigmarole as a Philosophy/Music major at what may be the STEMiest public school on the west coast is, predictably, weird

having a grossly expensive wardrobe doesn't help
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Yoder » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:27 am

my school laid the wood on @rjbman's school, B1G bros!
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby absurdmind » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:10 pm

organizing a campaign with some politically involved friends against my schools corruption and disregard for education. theyre planning on cutting faculty and classes despite a tuition revenue increase, but they built a pretty sweet new stadium and gym... we've had an accounting professor look at the budget so we know our info is legit. protests are so exciting. i wish i lived in montreal so i wouldnt have to be involved with all the organizing work. sidenote: joining long coat mafia this week.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby nevergreen » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:26 pm

so after going into school as a film major, switching to photography, then again to apparel merchandising, i just met my advisor to discuss my classes for next semester and i'm soooooo fucking excited!!! for the most part my general ed classes are done so next semester i can finally start diving into my career. unfortunately unless i really bust my ass ill be graduating in spring 2017 (a year behind what i planned) but it's not a big deal to me. i may take some winter/summer classes to help speed up the process but it feels so good knowing that i actually have something planned out that i like. i didn't think i'd ever feel this way or be excited about school it feels like things are starting to fall into place
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby absurdmind » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:47 pm

@exprof i wish but im in the midwest, not montreal. a good friend of mine who writes for the mcgill daily has been keeping me up to date with the austerity measures protests there. id borrow the strategies but the students here arent as "excitable" as in mcgill
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby JewTurk » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:44 am

Kind of off-topic but may be answered, I wouldn't know.

Good ways to go about getting a degree that makes you more internationally employable bar language? I'm pretty convinced I don't want to be in the US with my "long term career" choice because of the direction the education system is going but everything I'm seeing online makes it seem very unlikely to be able to just get and move to a country and find work easily/get a work permit. Looking for input.

PS!!!

I got accepted (there was an application process w/a few essays and some other small tidbits they looked at, transcripts etc, nothing crazy) into this "First Generation College Student" program where the only requirement is that, of course, you are a first generation college student. I'm currently signed up for English 100, Communication Studies 111 and Sociology 101. It's a two month program and it's completely payed for by the university. I meet with my adviser in February and I'll have a mentor for my fresh and soph year that I meet with occasionally. So I'm ecstatic that I get to spend time in such a beautiful area for the Summer while being able to get more credits under my belt.

Things are shaping up nicely!
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby madisseur » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:41 am

all i've been thinking about school lately is "why the fuck am i here"
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby zayg » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:25 pm

kinda drunk and writing a semester long paper in one night

this is actually going pretty well, whodathunk
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Postby AmericanPie » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:44 am

@zayg

I'm about to do this same thing, but with two papers instead of one. Wish me luck.
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Postby brlmski » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:21 am

1 day left for senior project. already revving up the booze
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Ques » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:50 pm

got accepted to study abroad in china for my entire junior year, so that's exciting!

as well, i'll have opportunities to teach high school students english, and tutor chinese college students in french.

hopefully i'll be in jinan for the fall, and beijing for the winter and spring, but i might be in beijing for the whole 10 months.

now to finish up my Boren scholarship so the government pays for all of it
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby Ques » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:32 pm

@odradek

one of our psychology professors was born in jinan and attended school there before coming to teach at my college in the US, so she's got connections out the wazoo and will be leading and organizing a semester program there and teaching courses on international psychology, hopefully. with her there, i'll be able to teach english at a local high school, as well as have a better chance at scoring internships. we'll be able to stay with a chinese family for a week in qufu, and have weekend trips to shanghai and other places, that wouldn't normally be options if i was to do a more mainstream program, that wouldn't have one of our college faculty leading and attending. also i've heard that jinan is less of a global business place, unlike beijing, so there's the possibility that i'll be interacting with more chinese people, rather than in beijing where i might not be pressured to use chinese as much, and will be exposed to a more internationalized version of china, maybe? also i'm definitely going to be in Beijing for all of winter and spring, doing a language pledge, so i was thinking that i might as well take the opportunity to see as much of china as i could, considering i'll be in beijing no matter what
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby station » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:14 pm

@jukeboxnukebox Moved this to a more fitting thread.
Most of this stuff is pretty common sense but its good to hear it. Of course, the key is good GPA + MCAT + well-rounded. But some things make it easier. Spoilering it to not take up too much space. Also, I take the DAT (dental version of MCAT) Jan 26th + I'm writing a publication, so this winter break will be real! :shock: I'm appyling next summer for the 15-16 cycle as are most of my friends.

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General
-Most important thing I can think of is find good study partners. They'll help you stay focused when you study, answer questions you have, and make classes much more enjoyable and manageable. Plus they'll let you know which professors to avoid which can play a large role (at my college at least, I've heard of some places with standardized exams).
-I really advocate for doing research in college. If you work hard, you'll get a really good LOR, it'll look good on your resume (really good if you get on a publication), it reinforces what you learn/gives you a heads up in classes, and you might get a little office to work at which is nice. Most good premeds I know dabbled in research, predents less so (hoping this works in my favor).
-Get real study habits. I like to treat school like a job, where I work at a desk I've gotten through research from 9-5 everyday (and then more in the night at home if I have to). It keeps me ahead on homework and gives me time to read textbooks too. When classes ramp up I'll add more time in the evening. This'll prevent you from watching netflix all week and then stressing about assignments the night before they're due.
-Actually learn the material. Its easy to cram before an exam and forget it the next day, but I've seen a lot of people who sucked on their initial assessment tests for the MCAT cause they had forgotten everything from their classes right after the class ended.

For Med school:
-Do some sort of community service (ofc). But don't just do it cause you have to, pick something you're passionate about. It'll give you so much more to talk about in your personal statements and interviews and I believe people can tell when you did something cause you had to vs cause you wanted to. I'm passionate about helping homeless people and disadvantaged children so that's where I choose to do community service. If I get a question about this, I'll be able to talk their ears off.
- Figure out what which med-schools want what. I know different dental schools want different things for LORS, pre-req classes, shadowing/community service requirements. Last summer I made a list of all the schools I'm interested in applying to and figured out everything I'd need to apply. Turns out I need a non-science LOR so now I can go become good friends with a non-science prof vs showing up to some profs office who has no idea who i am begging for a LOR. (also realized I need more shadowing hours)
-Best time I think to take MCAT/DAT is summer after sophomore year. I had an fellowship over the summer, so I'm taking mine after winter break which I think is the second best time.
-Lurk SDN, there is some good info on those boards.

And most importantly, find a balance between work and life! Some of my friends are getting way too stressed about med school at this point and have become wrecks. Be sure you have ways to decompress. I like to exercise, surf fashion boards, and eat pastries every Thursday night. Keeps me happy and productive.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby blocksphere » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:15 am

Trying to decide whether I should try go to grad school to do math/theoretical CS (possibly doing more of the quantum complexity theory stuff I've been working on... an impractical, esoteric field if there ever was one), or if I should try to work on my (currently mediocre) coding skills so I can get a real job after college. I have serious, crippling doubts about being able to succeed in grad school, but I also feel way behind in practical coding stuff compared to my peers who are actually majoring in CS and know what they're doing, and I'm not sure I'd actually enjoy working as a software engineer. Honestly, I've never been that interested in writing code for its own sake, and right now it just feels like a bid for financial stability.

I'd like to continue trying to make progress in both tracks: There's a small chance of a publication coming out of the research project I'm working on (if I can stop being so lazy all the time), and I'm going to focus my efforts on trying to get a software engineering internship this summer. Either of those things would be a nice self-esteem boost, but I dunno if I can do it.

Part of the problem is that I'm pretty depressed right now, so it's hard to think about the future or make an effort to do anything. This has been a sad sack post.
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Re: overdressed, undereducated: let's talk about school!

Postby rjbman » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:29 am

I think that depression is a large issue and one that is tough to deal with; that being said, I'll go ahead and give advice like it isn't a factor (in the hope that you can just go off of this and ignore the depression, which I know can be tough).

While math/theory CS can be pretty fantastically fun, you need a decent chance at a research/full-time teaching position to really succeed in academia. If coding isn't that foreign/painful to do, it might be a path worth pursuing while you try to land a job in permanent academia-land. From what I gather (I'm not going to grad school), there are a fair amount of grad school programs out there that will cover tuition + room & board in exchange for TAing or teaching an undergrad class. So really it's rather dependent on what sort of jobs you're able to land with your current standing. If you can get a full academic position, from your post it sounds like that's your preference, so I would go with that. Otherwise, it probably won't kill you to work a few years and build up some money to go back into the academic swing.
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