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Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:58 pm

Thread for the author voted most likely to read superfuture.

“You’ve been shopping,” said Bigend, looked at the Hackett bag.

“What did you buy?”

“Pants,” said Milgrim, “a shirt.”

“Ralph Lauren shops at Hackett, I’m told,” said Bigend. “That’s an extremely complex piece of information, conceptually. Whether it’s true or not.” He smiled. “Do you like to shop there?”

“I don’t understand it,” Milgrim said, “but I like their pants. Some of their plainer shirts.”

“What don’t you understand?”

“The English football thing.”

“How so?”

“Are they serious about that, Hackett?”

“Exactly what I value in you. You go effortlessly to the core.”

“But are they?”

“Some would maintain that a double negative amounts to a posi-
tive. Where did this person take your picture?”
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:01 pm



Brief Introduction To William:
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby CleanThug » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:07 pm

I read Zero History first not knowing it was a series.

Finished Pattern recognition a week ago and Spook Country arrived today.

What's Gibson working on currently?
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby starfox64 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:15 pm

The Rickson's is a fanatical museum−grade replica of a U.S. MA−1flying jacket, as purely functional and
iconic a garment as the previous century produced. Dorotea's slow burn is being accelerated, Cayce suspects,
by her perception that Cayce's MA−1 trumps any attempt at minimalism, the Rickson's having been created
by Japanese obsessives driven by passions having nothing at all to do with anything remotely like fashion.

Cayce knows, for instance, that the characteristically wrinkled seams down either arm were originally the
result of sewing with pre−war industrial machines that rebelled against the slippery new material, nylon. The
makers of the Rickson's have exaggerated this, but only very slightly, and done a hundred other things, tiny
things, as well, so that their product has become, in some very Japanese way, the result of an act of worship. It
is an imitation more real somehow than that which it emulates. It is easily the most expensive garment Cayce
owns, and would be virtually impossible to replace.


from Pattern Recognition (though i suspect at least half the board has read that book). interesting story here

i actually don't think Pattern Recognition is anything special, but Neuromancer is great
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby vgtbls » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:23 pm

I've read maybe 8 William Gibson books and he's definitely one of my favorite authors. I'm always so impressed with his ability to perfectly nail down not just a scene but a FEELING of a scene. He's a real master at extraneous details that elevate his stories from people in a blank room to flushed out humans in a jam-packed world. His Burning Chrome collection of short stories is a great primer to his style.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:25 pm

I'd guess William Gibson is currently working on a story set in 1993 about Gophernet.

I'd say that whilst Gibson's characters and plots are generally lifted almost verbatim from pulp fiction (detective novels, spy novels and early science fiction seem to be his most mined from genres) his books carry an eerie sense of place which feels contemporary even when they were written 20 years ago and set 20 years into the future.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:31 pm

Grilliam Ribson Paris Review Inteview:

http://www.theparisreview.org/interview ... iam-gibson
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:42 pm

He was more at home in the world of objects, his therapist said, than the world of people.


I think this sums up Gibson himself quite well. And maybe many of us here, too.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:48 am

Great Moments In Cyberpunk:

https://twitter.com/erlsn/status/506593119018962944

Gerraldson Pugh reads the galleys of Gillian Robson's latest book.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:11 am

Really though, can you claim to be even remotely cyberpunk any more?

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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby mc-lunar » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:30 am

I just read my first William Gibson book last week, All Tomorrow's Parties. Did a bit of research afterwards cause i quite liked it and it turns out he wrote Neuromancer which is one of those books i've been meaning to read for years. I really enjoy Neal Stephenson style writing (snow crash, reamde, and cryptonomicon are books i reread often) but Gibson really fleshed out the world of the novel without doing it overtly (not so much x is so and so and y is so and so but the reader learns through the characters). Neuromancer's definitely next on my list now
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby Iliam » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:33 am

Will Gibson on BBC Radio 4 show Start The Week
Tom Sutcliffe explores our relationship with computer technology and the interplay of alien and familiar in science fiction. Tom's joined in the studio by writer William Gibson, novelist Michel Faber, LSE Professor Judy Wajcman and historian Dominic Sandbrook. How have computer technologies transformed our sense of outer space, cyber space and our own inner space?
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby DeafIdiotGod » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:09 pm

Check it out, William Gibson did an interview with Rawr Denim

http://www.rawrdenim.com/2015/03/willia ... henticity/
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:04 am

Looking around to see what Bill had to say on subcultures for the wavey garms thread and found this:

http://www.dezeen.com/2014/12/18/willia ... k-opinion/

and this:

http://www.wired.com/2012/09/william-gi ... unk-memes/
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby rjbman » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:08 pm

@bela what did you think of The Peripheral?
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:16 am

I thought the concept seemed wack so I didn't read it yet.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby ramseames » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:56 am

Was talking with my friends parents tonight about what we'd been reading and when I mentioned gibson they said they'd met him a few times through a friend of theirs in the architecture community here; apparently he was much more quiet and restrained than they had imagined
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby teck » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:08 pm

i feel gibson is the fashion writer the fashion world needs, obsessive and critical.

however i find his dialogue to be so...thriller-y. its like two dudes just trading edgy witticisms.

"Do you like it?"

"What's to like?"

"That's the thing. There's nothing. Everything."

"Yes."

"Edgy."

"Witty."

"Smoking cigarette and zipping up my bomber."
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:26 pm

I kind of want a buzz gibson. If anyone sees one for £15 that would fit a size M hit me up
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby Northwest » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:01 pm

Willy and Michael St. John Smith have a collaborative project/comic coming out in May titled Archangel that he just announced on twitter. Variant cover on his twitter implies time shenanigans involving flight. Shows a B-2 spirit (the first plane you think of when you hear the words stealth bomber; absurdly geometric) flying alongside WWII era (?) fighters. Imagery brought up shades of Miyazaki's The Wind Rises montage of the history of flight. Seems like an excellent place for his sensibilities. The psychology of flight, obsessive engineering detail that becomes part of the design language of violence could certainly fit into his examinations as unmanned vehicles do the same to air forces as they have to other branches of the military.

Plus, it'll be fun to see how Gibson works with an illustrator. His words alone inspire so many people to draw their ideas of what he is trying to say.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby bels » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:53 am

Nance's floor became jungle, her bed a plateau in the Andean foothills,
and Deke flew his Spad at forced speed, as if it were a full-wired
interactive combat machine. Computerized hypos fed a slow trickle of
high-performance enhancement melange into his bloodstream. Sensors were
wired directly into his skull pulling a supersonic snapturn in the
green-blue bowl of sky over Bolivian rain forest. Tiny would have felt the
airflow over control surfaces.
Below, grunts hacked through the jungle with hype-pumps strapped above
elbows to give them that little extra death-dance fury in combat, a shot of
liquid hell in a blue plastic vial. Maybe they got ten minutes' worth in a
week. But coming in at treetop level, reflexes cranked to the max, flying so
low the ground troops never spotted you until you were on them, phosgene
agents released, away and gone before they could draw a bead . . . it took a
constant trickle of hype just to maintain. And the direct neuron interface
with the jumpjet was a two-way street. The onboard computers monitored
biochemistry and decided when to open the sluice gates and give the human
component a killer jolt of combat edge.
Dosages like that ate you up. Ate you good and slow and constant,
etching the brain surfaces, eroding away the brain-cell membranes. If you
weren't yanked from the air promptly enough, you ended up with braincell
attenuation with reflexes too fast for your body to handle and your
fight-or-flight reflexes fucked real good....


http://www.lib.ru/GIBSON/r_dogfight.txt
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby Northwest » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:15 pm

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/neuromancer-author-william-gibson-warps-comics-reality-in-idws-archangel

Things keep sounding better with regard to how much I think I will enjoy Archangel.

Quick summary of Q&A linked above: plot uses similar conceit to The Peripheral where a "splitter" was invented in desperation to escape the timeline humanity has ended up on. Main characters will be Naomi Givens (RAF intelligence officer in 1945 Berlin), her ex (American OSS officer), and the Pilot ("a nameless marine from a seriously harsh-ass 2016 America).

Preview images here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=67666&disp=ilib&oty=1&oid=73363

Personal favorite is the depiction of what I believe is alternate history White House, completely isolated from any surrounding geography with immediate access to a security bunker.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby rjbman » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:10 am

The Future of Privacy - discusses how privacy and history overlap
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby uames » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:48 pm

Agrippa-- the disappearing electronic poem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41kZovcyHrU (video has embed disabled)

Documented in the Agrippa Project: http://agrippa.english.ucsb.edu/
Excerpt from book chapter on Agrippa by Matthew Kirschenbaum: http://agrippa.english.ucsb.edu/kirschenbaum-matthew-g-hacking-agrippa-the-source-of-the-online-text

the agrippa poem shows a more sentimental side to gibson than almost any other work-- and he obscured the whole thing with an elaborate conceit (self-encrypting disk with no included key) designed to make it borderline impossible to read. almost like he's afraid to show too much of himself. i sometimes wonder if the pattern recognition trilogy's milgrim was something of an autobiographical character for gibson-- always seeking some kind of security blanket effect, first from drugs but later from a pair of interesting green trousers.
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Re: No Maps For These Territories. The William Gibson Thread

Postby rjbman » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:05 pm

I so screwed up - never shared the article about the upcoming follow-up to The Peripheral (it's called Agency)

Sci-Fi Writer William Gibson Reimagines the World After the 2016 Election

Thoughts? I'm a little peeved at the decision to set it in a future w/ Clinton winning (wanna trade, Peripheral folks?) because it feels like a bit of a cop out to write a book so present-day and focused but without dealing with the monstrosity that is Trump.
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