So why not go whole-hog vegan?
When applied to an entire global population, the vegan diet wastes available land that could otherwise feed more people. That’s because we use different kinds of land to produce different types of food, and not all diets exploit these land types equally.
Grazing land is often unsuitable for growing crops, but great for feeding food animals such as cattle.
Perennial cropland supports crops that are alive year-round and are harvested multiple times before dying, including a lot of the grain and hay used to feed livestock.
Cultivated cropland is where you typically find vegetables, fruits and nuts.
The five diets that contained the most meat used all available crop and animal grazing land. The five diets using the least amount of meat—or none at all—varied in land use. But the vegan diet stood out because it was the only diet that used no perennial cropland at all, and, as a result, would waste the chance to produce a lot of food.
You're treating your morals/worldview like forgone conclusions when you respond like this
ramseames wrote:"eating purely vegan is a less effective use of available farmland than some omnivorous diets" would probably be of interest to anyone choosing their diet for reasons related to conservationism/environmental impacts
It's all predicated on the idea that land not being used for human consumption is land wasted, which is about as anti-environmentalist as you can get.
ramseames wrote:My point was that people who are making choices for reasons other than your own might find it interesting, but you responded as though everyone who might be reading is of your own perspective.
ramseames wrote:I'm not coming into the thread "to convince people of the benefits of eating meat". I posted an article that relates to the subject of the thread and you dismissed it with what is essentially a no true Scotsman fallacy about how all vegetarians and vegans think meat is murder.
Petending that there aren't environmentally focused vegans/vegetarians that don't have ethical qualms with meat itself but thinks that its production is generally worse for the planet than plant based food, doesn't cause those people not to exist.
mildude wrote:It's been a while since I've posted, ct! How are you all?
On January first I quit meat cold turkey. It's been about three years since I was a vegetarian last, and I can tell you I really, really did not eat nutritiously back then. So far It's been easier than I've thought to eat cheaply and nutritiously and veganly. Nowadays I'm reasonably into eating healthily, but I'm not great at cooking and probably have a weird palate.
Can anyone recommend me some basic vegetarian or vegan recipes that are high in bean energy and good for a young person who's new to cooking? I'm trying to hit about 140-160g/day.
mildude wrote:It's been a while since I've posted, ct! How are you all?
On January first I quit meat cold turkey. It's been about three years since I was a vegetarian last, and I can tell you I really, really did not eat nutritiously back then. So far It's been easier than I've thought to eat cheaply and nutritiously and veganly. Nowadays I'm reasonably into eating healthily, but I'm not great at cooking and probably have a weird palate.
Can anyone recommend me some basic vegetarian or vegan recipes that are high in bean energy and good for a young person who's new to cooking? I'm trying to hit about 140-160g/day.
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