The Price Of Quitting The Game

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby Cowboy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:59 am

2018 will be a test year of a quit. No forums, no message services, and no buying outside of essentials and Uniqlo U

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby wiggly--woo » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:50 am

In reference to cowboy's post above, and building on some of maj's observations, thought I'd share my own experience of the past couple of years.

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First stumbled across fashion forums around August 2013 and then bought clothes pretty regularly (an initial splurge followed by at least one or two purchases a month probably) between then and September 2015. Then i just stopped buying, and eventually stopped looking at forums. I've always been quite tight with money, and the things I liked at the time were relatively inexpensive, so I was spending hardly anything compared to the the kind of money that a lot of people on forums are spending, but compared to your average joe who shops at topman sales, I imagine the amount I spent was pretty ridiculous.

I stopped spending partly because it was completely unsustainable. I was starting a masters degree at a new university, and at that time you couldn't get student loans (in the UK) for masters degrees so I was prepping for having to go a year without any income. I'm also a bit of a luddite at heart and wanted to make a fresh start of sorts, meet some new people, make new friends blah blah blah, hence weaning myself off looking at forums/the internet in general.

September 2016 therefore marked one year without buying clothes. Had a great time at uni, did really well academically, made some great friends, got into a serious relationship blah blah blah. Soon got a job, albeit for really shit pay, but a job's a job. In November 2016 I had my first splurge - cherry docs, wool trews, couple of shirts, couple of sweaters - all of which were bought at sale prices so no major spend but some nice additions to the wardrobe. 14 months of no cop brought to an end.

Didn't buy anything again until April 2017 when my white reeboks I bought a couple of years prior had started to fall apart so I bought their replacement. Bought some cheap basics in August to get me through a week away in the sweltering heat in Greece. In November I started at a much better paid job and moved into a new place, bought half a dozen cheap new shirts for work and that was that. Then December comes round and I have my first proper splurge for over a year - new coat, couple pairs of trews, new sweater, new shoes. Probably won't buy anything again until spring comes round.

So essentially it's been a 14 month no cop followed by a 13 month no cop, with very limited forum browsing. Anyway here's what I've learnt:

#1 - I have plenty of clothes. I didn't need more. And after a while of no cop I didn't want more either. Those clothes you don't really like any more and want to gradually replace? You'll like them again. You'll wear them again. They're just clothes, and they do their job. Not buying clothes is very easy.

#2 - Money is money. If you can pay your rent, bills etc, put some into savings, have a decent social life and still have a bit left over then spend it on what makes you happy. If that's clothes then buy clothes. Personally, I earn enough money now at my new job to spend a fair bit on clothes again, but for the most part I'd rather put it towards weekends away, days out, nights out, nicer food etc.

#3 - Time is ultimately much more valuable than money - the time you spend choosing what to wear before you leave the house, the time you spend browsing forums and auction sites, the time you spend making trips irl to see/buy something in person, even just the time you spend thinking about clothes. Tracking the amount of money you have and how much you're spending is quite easy, tracking the amount of time you invest is a bit more difficult. Re-directing the majority of the time I had spent looking/thinking about clothes and forums into other things was by far the most fruitful aspect of no cop.

#4 - I actually really like clothes but I like clothes much more now than I ever did before. When I stopped buying, I appreciated what I have more, and when I did make purchases, I enjoyed it more because it's less of a routine thing. Cutting out forums means I now have a much better sense of what I like to wear and the kind of style I want to move toward, because it's a much more personal thing now. I don't know or care what people on forums are wearing anymore and that means more freedom to discover things for myself. And while my taste in clothes has changed a huge amount over the past couple of years, and there is that small part of me that wants a major wardrobe revamp, I'm more than happy to carry on with what I have because...well, see point #1.

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For what its worth, I don't think a cop freeze is necessary for everyone, nor should everyone wean themselves off forums. But its been a valuable experience for me and I've managed to achieve a lot just by spending money elsewhere and better utilising the time that I previously would have wasted sitting on the computer looking at forums and planning my next buys, and I'm sure there are others who could probably benefit too.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby oucho » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:44 pm

Being a student for the last two years I didn't buy as many clothes as before, my ebay spend on clothes for this year so far is £132 and last year it was £132 total, I also bought some t-shirts and socks from Uniqlo and a couple of bits and bobs from vintage stores + some TEF pieces but I don't buy those

I think the only thing that makes high fashion and mid-range fashion at retail prices interesting is the thrill of buying something and the media/social media hype that surrounds a lot of fashion. High fashion clothing is ultra luxury and buying truly artisanal clothes is very decadent, it just isn't 'for' most people. The problem with mid-range brands is that they're neither here nor there and you tend to get something that is a bit better quality than uniqlo for 10x the price and the design is normally a bit middle of the road too. I think people made a big thing of the idea that if you had money it was easy to dress well, or that it was hard to style a good outfit without buying all designer gear and honestly I have no idea where that came from (from only seeing and presenting outfits through photos probably) because it doesn't seem true to me and if you ever attend any fashion shows and look at what everyone else is wearing you'll see that all designer clothing is often pretty gauche but fun to see for sure. I think there is also an element of a lot of internet fashion people coming from non-art backgrounds and wearing high fashion is an accessible and thrilling way to become part of a different milieu. And actually I think that is one of the best arguments for caring about clothing - to send a message to other people that you want to be part of their clan.

The thing is - not having any new clothes in your wardrobe gets pretty boring. Clothes are only fun if you get some new ones sometimes. Unless you wear a strict uniform you still have to pick out outfits and picking out the same combos gets boring. Plus what are you gonna contribute when your friends talk about ebay for an hour straight and you're doing no cop.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:13 am

I've been wearing a black muji yak wool jumper (white tshirt not visible beneath) with black swrve trousers and black vans slip ons every day and I think it's giving me a lot of power. I recommend it to anyone who wants/needs to get some power. You have to wear black though and it has to be every single day. As soon as you deviate the power disappears.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby maj » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:48 am

Having all your clothes stolen is the best way to quit the game imo, I have 0 interest .
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby kickingthefly » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:08 pm

sorry didnt intend that to be a negative, thats awful. and i thought a few moth holes were bad
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby charybdis » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:17 pm

Was just reminded about c-t because I saw some of y'all in london yesterday... I dunno if I've "quit the game" but I think I've quit being that invested in fashion as a way of feeling better about my projected sense of self/image. (Also I got really into a chinese anime dressup game.)

Recently bought some more clothes because I moved and had a sort of change in lifestyle/weather and wanted some things just to please myself but it didn't bring on that kind of obsessive browsing that it used to.

hope all is well, I just realized that I've posted once a year for the last two years so here's... 2019's post

here's an article about luxury consumerism that khay texted me recently
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby BIGBEE » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:16 pm

developed a much healthier relationship with clothes over the past few years. Used to use buying clothes as a coping mechanism (and being annoying online) when I felt wayward and didn't know what I wanted to do. Got a lot better at recognizing what's causing me to browse yjp for 4 hours a day looking for 20 year old wtaps.

For anyone trying to quit and reduce how much they spend on clothes, setting a saving goal worked really well for me. Having money saved up made me more stingy and gave me back some of the pre-jawns sticker shock. Also finding other hobbies and being busy with school.

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby Julio » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:23 am

charybdis wrote:Was just reminded about c-t because I saw some of y'all in london yesterday... I dunno if I've "quit the game" but I think I've quit being that invested in fashion as a way of feeling better about my projected sense of self/image. (Also I got really into a chinese anime dressup game.)

Recently bought some more clothes because I moved and had a sort of change in lifestyle/weather and wanted some things just to please myself but it didn't bring on that kind of obsessive browsing that it used to.

hope all is well, I just realized that I've posted once a year for the last two years so here's... 2019's post

here's an article about luxury consumerism that khay texted me recently


i like this paragraph:

The passion for brands is moving ever eastwards. An extraordinary photograph in Deluxe (very badly reproduced, unfortunately) shows a young woman in a tiny room lying on her bed as if dead on a catafalque. Every surface is covered, every wall is hung, every chair is heaped, her body is layered with clothing, jewellery, make-up and shoes designed by Anna Sui. She is one of the series of ‘happy victims’ that Kyoichi Tsuzuki has photographed in Japan. There are collectors of every brand. One is a Buddhist monk who once a month takes off his robes and puts on one of his Comme des Garçons outfits and goes into Tokyo to add to his collection. A Martin Margiela collector never cooks at home for fear the smell will taint the clothes. The only thing in his refrigerator is eyedrops. ‘When he gets thirsty he goes to a convenience shop and drinks there, then goes back home.’


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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby WussWayne » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:24 am

Step One: "We admitted we were powerless over jawnz and that our lives had become unmanageable."
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby maj » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:58 am

no cop is back, hotter than ever.

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby mc-lunar » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:48 pm

Im in

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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby weqe » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:49 am

committing to 6 month lets gooo

mostly phased out anyway really considered buying a four pack of black tees n just going from there
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby bels » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:22 am

small brain: quit the game
large brain: buy 4 black tees n go from there
giant brain: buy 1 black merino tee and quit both buying and washing clothes.
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Re: The Price Of Quitting The Game

Postby BobbyZamora » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:16 am

you're all small-time :cool:
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